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'The Killer In Me'


Buffista Movies 4: Straight to Video  

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DavidS - Jul 26, 2005 9:53:37 am PDT #6148 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Ewan McGregor, Scarlett Johansson, Djimon Hounsou, and Sean Bean aren't stars?

Not in the Hollywood sense. A star is somebody who can open a movie - that is, draw a large audience based on the actor, not the character or the movie. There are only four or five stars in Hollywood by this definition.


Calli - Jul 26, 2005 9:55:09 am PDT #6149 of 10002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Hmmm. I've gone to see movies based entirely on the fact that Ewan McGregor was in them. But then I != Hollywood.


§ ita § - Jul 26, 2005 10:14:22 am PDT #6150 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

There are only four or five stars in Hollywood by this definition.

Do you think Michael Bay shares this definition? Because his movies, by said lights, have often been star free. Yet this is his first bomb.


Jesse - Jul 26, 2005 10:16:31 am PDT #6151 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

You've got to blame the marketers, don't you? I haven't seen nearly as many ads -- and the ones I have haven't caused the same sort of "guh" reaction -- as for, say, Mr & Mrs. Smith.


§ ita § - Jul 26, 2005 10:17:36 am PDT #6152 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think the marketing was lousy too. I didn't start seeing ads until pretty close to the release date, and they were frantic and hard to follow/looked like the whole plot.


Jesse - Jul 26, 2005 10:18:40 am PDT #6153 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I have like no impression of the movie from the ads.


§ ita § - Jul 26, 2005 10:20:17 am PDT #6154 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

They play clones! Of people! They're in danger! Djimon Hounsou is scary! Run! Explosion! Explosion!

The Island doesn't exist.

They needed more sex.


Tom Scola - Jul 26, 2005 10:21:58 am PDT #6155 of 10002
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

So, apparently, for a movie to be marketable, it either has to have a big-name star, or it has to make sense.


Jesse - Jul 26, 2005 10:22:26 am PDT #6156 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

The impression I got from Ewan on Leno a hundred years ago: They play clones! Of people! They have sex! Things go BOOM!


Polter-Cow - Jul 26, 2005 10:23:48 am PDT #6157 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Do sex and explosions mean nothing to the American moviegoing audience these days? God, nobody has any standards.