And that Legolas' Dad held the thirteen dwarves from The Hobbit captive and that Gimli was one of them (source of Gimli's enmity).
Gimli's father Gloín, I think you mean. [x-post]
Let me guess. We're in a hurry.
Inara ,'Serenity'
LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".
Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".
A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.
Jessica - Dec 22, 2003 4:53:25 pm PST #690 of 3902
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?
DavidS - Dec 22, 2003 4:56:17 pm PST #691 of 3902
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Gimli's father Gloín, I think you mean.
Was it Gloin? I thought it was Gimli himself since the book said something about him being in the court where he might've seen Legolas wandering about. Who's got a cite?
Volans - Dec 22, 2003 4:58:11 pm PST #692 of 3902
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See, to me the Scouring is the heart and soul and major point of the book. But it always felt a bit like a different story to me, and I don't think it would work onscreen. Too much of a mood jump.
I'm trying to come around to the movie vs. book issue, I really am.
I would've also cut Cirith Ungol in large part. I certainly would not have added a warg battle.
Jessica - Dec 22, 2003 5:00:38 pm PST #693 of 3902
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?
Since Gimli wasn't in The Hobbit, I don't think it could have been him.
[Re-skimming that chapter, there's no mention of anyone being a captive except the original thirteen Dwarves. No Gimli.]
Volans - Dec 22, 2003 5:06:15 pm PST #694 of 3902
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Sean, you're on! If he was a real friend, he'd've gotten me tickets anyway.
Galadriel was Elrond's....
Also, Aragorn and Arwen are cousins. Elrond's brother Elros was Aragorn's great great great great etc. grandfather, and the first king of Numenor.
Sean K - Dec 22, 2003 5:07:50 pm PST #695 of 3902
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Who's got a cite?
The Thirteen dwarves were Oin, Gloin (Gimli's dad, see Elrond calling him "Gimli, son of Gloin in the FotR movie), Ori, Nori, Dori, Bifur, Bofur, Bombur, Balin, Dwalin, Fili, Kili, and Thorin Oakensheild.
Yes. All from memory.
Yes. That is fu. king. sad.
Volans - Dec 22, 2003 5:09:32 pm PST #696 of 3902
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Sadder? I can do that, but I can't reliably get all seven of Snow White's dwarves.
Sean K - Dec 22, 2003 5:10:40 pm PST #697 of 3902
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Also, Aragorn and Arwen are cousins.
Of course they are cousins. In Tolkien's "traditional" mental space, the only way it would be even remotely acceptable for them to be married once he's king, and to make her queen, she has be his cousin.
And again, I am filled with this image of Aragorn, son of Arathorn saying "Oh, you're a plumber.... what on Earth is that?"
amyparker - Dec 22, 2003 5:11:41 pm PST #698 of 3902
You've got friends to have good times with. When you need to share the trauma of a badly-written book with someone, that's when you go to family.
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Volans - Dec 22, 2003 5:14:58 pm PST #699 of 3902
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to make her queen, she has be his cousin
Eowyn's a daughter of kings too.