I'm a big girl. Just tell me.

Inara ,'Objects In Space'


LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".  

Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".

A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.


Volans - Dec 22, 2003 5:09:32 pm PST #696 of 3902
move out and draw fire

Sadder? I can do that, but I can't reliably get all seven of Snow White's dwarves.


Sean K - Dec 22, 2003 5:10:40 pm PST #697 of 3902
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Also, Aragorn and Arwen are cousins.

Of course they are cousins. In Tolkien's "traditional" mental space, the only way it would be even remotely acceptable for them to be married once he's king, and to make her queen, she has be his cousin.

And again, I am filled with this image of Aragorn, son of Arathorn saying "Oh, you're a plumber.... what on Earth is that?"


amyparker - Dec 22, 2003 5:11:41 pm PST #698 of 3902
You've got friends to have good times with. When you need to share the trauma of a badly-written book with someone, that's when you go to family.

t falling down giggling


Volans - Dec 22, 2003 5:14:58 pm PST #699 of 3902
move out and draw fire

to make her queen, she has be his cousin

Eowyn's a daughter of kings too.


Sean K - Dec 22, 2003 5:18:14 pm PST #700 of 3902
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I just try to ignore that stuff, Raquel. People have bizarre notions of what they want from their royalty.


scrappy - Dec 22, 2003 5:39:56 pm PST #701 of 3902
Nobody

Am I the only Arwen/Aragorn fan here? Now, I have only read the books twice, but I remember initially really liking Eowyn, but then finding her growing incredibly self-centered and unbalanced. Not someone I would want to count on in a crisis. Arwen was a bit remote, but I gave her props for steadfastness and loving an "outsider."


DavidS - Dec 22, 2003 5:42:58 pm PST #702 of 3902
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Am I the only Arwen/Aragorn fan here?

I like them fine. I think Aragorn recognized all the good in Eowyn, but it would have seemed ridiculous (to me) for them to be together.

Also, the book indicates that Arwen got to use Elrond's sword which came down from his mother Idril. That's what she's brandishing against the Nazgul in FotR.


Steph L. - Dec 22, 2003 5:47:20 pm PST #703 of 3902
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Sadder? I can do that, but I can't reliably get all seven of Snow White's dwarves.

But do you know the Seven Little Duffs?


§ ita § - Dec 22, 2003 5:54:32 pm PST #704 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't mind Arwen in the books. The movies make her look more like a headstrong teen pining to be allowed to stay with her older boyfriend.


Betsy HP - Dec 22, 2003 6:06:05 pm PST #705 of 3902
If I only had a brain...

I Am The Very Model Of A Third-Age Numenorean.

giggles. bows in Pmoon's direction.