Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"?
Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn.
Aragorn: I like "Strider."
Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".
A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.
See, to me the Scouring is the heart and soul and major point of the book. But it always felt a bit like a different story to me, and I don't think it would work onscreen. Too much of a mood jump.
I'm trying to come around to the movie vs. book issue, I really am.
I would've also cut Cirith Ungol in large part. I certainly would not have added a warg battle.
Since Gimli wasn't in The Hobbit, I don't think it could have been him.
[Re-skimming that chapter, there's no mention of anyone being a captive except the original thirteen Dwarves. No Gimli.]
Sean, you're on! If he was a real friend, he'd've gotten me tickets anyway.
Galadriel was Elrond's....
Also, Aragorn and Arwen are cousins. Elrond's brother Elros was Aragorn's great great great great etc. grandfather, and the first king of Numenor.
Who's got a cite?
The Thirteen dwarves were Oin, Gloin (Gimli's dad, see Elrond calling him "Gimli, son of Gloin in the FotR movie), Ori, Nori, Dori, Bifur, Bofur, Bombur, Balin, Dwalin, Fili, Kili, and Thorin Oakensheild.
Yes. All from memory.
Yes. That is fu. king. sad.
Sadder? I can do that, but I can't reliably get all seven of Snow White's dwarves.
Also, Aragorn and Arwen are cousins.
Of course they are cousins. In Tolkien's "traditional" mental space, the only way it would be even remotely acceptable for them to be married once he's king, and to make her queen, she has be his cousin.
And again, I am filled with this image of Aragorn, son of Arathorn saying "Oh, you're a plumber.... what on Earth is that?"
to make her queen, she has be his cousin
Eowyn's a daughter of kings too.
I just try to ignore that stuff, Raquel. People have bizarre notions of what they want from their royalty.
Am I the only Arwen/Aragorn fan here? Now, I have only read the books twice, but I remember initially really liking Eowyn, but then finding her growing incredibly self-centered and unbalanced. Not someone I would want to count on in a crisis. Arwen was a bit remote, but I gave her props for steadfastness and loving an "outsider."