Since Gimli wasn't in The Hobbit, I don't think it could have been him.
[Re-skimming that chapter, there's no mention of anyone being a captive except the original thirteen Dwarves. No Gimli.]
And don't you ever stand for that sort of thing. Someone ever tries to kill you, you try to kill 'em right back! ... You got the right same as anyone to live and try to kill people.
Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'
LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".
Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".
A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.
Jessica - Dec 22, 2003 5:00:38 pm PST #693 of 3902
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?
Volans - Dec 22, 2003 5:06:15 pm PST #694 of 3902
move out and draw fire
Sean, you're on! If he was a real friend, he'd've gotten me tickets anyway.
Galadriel was Elrond's....
Also, Aragorn and Arwen are cousins. Elrond's brother Elros was Aragorn's great great great great etc. grandfather, and the first king of Numenor.
Sean K - Dec 22, 2003 5:07:50 pm PST #695 of 3902
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Who's got a cite?
The Thirteen dwarves were Oin, Gloin (Gimli's dad, see Elrond calling him "Gimli, son of Gloin in the FotR movie), Ori, Nori, Dori, Bifur, Bofur, Bombur, Balin, Dwalin, Fili, Kili, and Thorin Oakensheild.
Yes. All from memory.
Yes. That is fu. king. sad.
Volans - Dec 22, 2003 5:09:32 pm PST #696 of 3902
move out and draw fire
Sadder? I can do that, but I can't reliably get all seven of Snow White's dwarves.
Sean K - Dec 22, 2003 5:10:40 pm PST #697 of 3902
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Also, Aragorn and Arwen are cousins.
Of course they are cousins. In Tolkien's "traditional" mental space, the only way it would be even remotely acceptable for them to be married once he's king, and to make her queen, she has be his cousin.
And again, I am filled with this image of Aragorn, son of Arathorn saying "Oh, you're a plumber.... what on Earth is that?"
amyparker - Dec 22, 2003 5:11:41 pm PST #698 of 3902
You've got friends to have good times with. When you need to share the trauma of a badly-written book with someone, that's when you go to family.
t falling down giggling
Volans - Dec 22, 2003 5:14:58 pm PST #699 of 3902
move out and draw fire
to make her queen, she has be his cousin
Eowyn's a daughter of kings too.
Sean K - Dec 22, 2003 5:18:14 pm PST #700 of 3902
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
I just try to ignore that stuff, Raquel. People have bizarre notions of what they want from their royalty.
scrappy - Dec 22, 2003 5:39:56 pm PST #701 of 3902
Nobody
Am I the only Arwen/Aragorn fan here? Now, I have only read the books twice, but I remember initially really liking Eowyn, but then finding her growing incredibly self-centered and unbalanced. Not someone I would want to count on in a crisis. Arwen was a bit remote, but I gave her props for steadfastness and loving an "outsider."
DavidS - Dec 22, 2003 5:42:58 pm PST #702 of 3902
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Am I the only Arwen/Aragorn fan here?
I like them fine. I think Aragorn recognized all the good in Eowyn, but it would have seemed ridiculous (to me) for them to be together.
Also, the book indicates that Arwen got to use Elrond's sword which came down from his mother Idril. That's what she's brandishing against the Nazgul in FotR.