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The Thirteen dwarves were Oin, Gloin (Gimli's dad, see Elrond calling him "Gimli, son of Gloin in the FotR movie), Ori, Nori, Dori, Bifur, Bofur, Bombur, Balin, Dwalin, Fili, Kili, and Thorin Oakensheild.

Yes. All from memory.

Yes. That is fu. king. sad.

Sadder? I can do that, but I can't reliably get all seven of Snow White's dwarves.

Also, Aragorn and Arwen are cousins.

Of course they are cousins. In Tolkien's "traditional" mental space, the only way it would be even remotely acceptable for them to be married once he's king, and to make her queen, she has be his cousin.

And again, I am filled with this image of Aragorn, son of Arathorn saying "Oh, you're a plumber.... what on Earth is that?"

t falling down giggling

to make her queen, she has be his cousin

Eowyn's a daughter of kings too.

I just try to ignore that stuff, Raquel. People have bizarre notions of what they want from their royalty.

Am I the only Arwen/Aragorn fan here? Now, I have only read the books twice, but I remember initially really liking Eowyn, but then finding her growing incredibly self-centered and unbalanced. Not someone I would want to count on in a crisis. Arwen was a bit remote, but I gave her props for steadfastness and loving an "outsider."

Am I the only Arwen/Aragorn fan here?

I like them fine. I think Aragorn recognized all the good in Eowyn, but it would have seemed ridiculous (to me) for them to be together.

Also, the book indicates that Arwen got to use Elrond's sword which came down from his mother Idril. That's what she's brandishing against the Nazgul in FotR.

Sadder? I can do that, but I can't reliably get all seven of Snow White's dwarves.

But do you know the Seven Little Duffs?

I don't mind Arwen in the books. The movies make her look more like a headstrong teen pining to be allowed to stay with her older boyfriend.