Fay,

thanks for the apology. I do not read the main threads in this forum, only the spoiler threads. I am vehemently against a limitation of what should be discussed in a spoiler thread. I would much rather a "UK thread" be created than to limit discussion here.

Noumenon, I'm actually not a newbie to this thread (or the forum). If you go WAY BACK, I've posted in here before. Around September or October. My nick comes from a musical group, Les Nubians.

I am vehemently against a limitation of what should be discussed in a spoiler thread. I would much rather a "UK thread" be created than to limit discussion here.

Well whether you are against the rules or not, they are the rules and if you want to change them, make your case in the Bureaucracy thread.

Daniel C. Jensen "Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer" Jul 16, 2003 5:46:11 am PDT

okay, let me know what the rules are because in Buffy/Angel - nothing is off-limits in the spoiler thread.

maybe I need to unsubscribe from this thread totally.

BTW, the description for the thread is "spoilers for the current Firefly season. Anything goes."

That needs to be changed if there are limitations on discussion. I'm not trying to be difficult here, but I started reading this thread with one understanding, and it seems to me this understanding is being changed.

le nubian, I see your point-- but to create a new thread for just three weeks discussion (because, after 11th August, nothing will be spoilery for Brits t sob ) will make those people on the forum who are opposed to thread proliferation (and there are quite a number, whom you maybe haven't met if you don't read Bureaucracy) very annoyed. And to try and have discussions in whitefont in the main thread is not that easy. This is a very short term limit on discussion, for a strange and exceptional circumstance. Especially given that under normal rules, the last episode we will see (Objects In Space) we could already have been spoiled for in the main thread. I think I've mostly escaped, but only because people there have been kind enough to limit their discussion.

I realise it's awkward, and more than a little strange, but it's a) short term and b) a one-off. It's three weeks: we see The Message on 28th July, Heart of Gold on 4th August, and Objects In Space on 11th August. Please, hold off until then?

And we haven't really, in the midst of all this 'where shall we go?' had time and space to discuss Trash as much as I might have liked.

I assumed that the lack of respect for Inara's profession was an Alliance/Independent thing. Within Alliance society, Companions are respected; I imagine that the Independents may have picked up on the existance of 'legalised prostitutes' within Alliance society and used it as part of 'look, these people are bad and must be killed' propaganda. I don't see, in the crew's attitudes, disrespect for Inara as a person, but (with the exceptions of Wash, who has little to do with her; Simon, who is polite and kind as always; and River, who is a hard person to use as a measure of normal behaviour) the crew are rim worlders, Independants as far as they have politics, and they don't respect Inara's profession (though only Mal, and maybe Jayne, who doesn't respect much, really go as far as to show that).

Am-Chau,

okay very well. I wished some discussion of this had happened in the thread before the proposal to limit discussion went through. It certainly took me by surprise.

I am not an admin. The rules are being hashed out for firefly in the Bureaucracy thread. Once again, I implore you to read about the discussion of said thread changes there, especially the last 100 posts.

Buffy and Angel spoiler threads actually do have exceptions, as they have a "Spoilage lite" thread where the rules are stricter and whitefonting is the order of the thread.

As this thread has actually become a somewhat "Spoilage lite" by agreement, at least for the time being (and until, again, it is confirmed in Bureaucracy) I would suggest that one would do well to only discuss the current week's episode as aired in the UK at approximately 1 pm Mondays, Buffista Board time.

Buffy and Angel spoiler threads actually do have exceptions

I don't follow Spoilage Lite for the very reason that I'm not interested in whitefonting in the spoiler threads. By definition that seems antithetical.

Because it was requested, I will cooperate and not spoil, but I do wish some discussion had happened here and not in Bureaucracy. Perhaps everyone else who follows this thread reads that one, but I do not.

My nick comes from a musical group, Les Nubians.

Think I'll start calling you Les...

I wished some discussion of this had happened in the thread before the proposal to limit discussion went through. It certainly took me by surprise.

I wish we'd discussed this before the situation was right on top of us, as well. It was confusing to try and explain beforehand, though (and it's still not easy), and while there was some mention of it in the main Firefly thread, for obvious reasons I didn't want to come over here and raise it at that point, fearing even more spoiling.

Edit: thank you for the cooperation. It means a lot to me.

I would suggest that one would do well to only discuss the current week's episode as aired in the UK at approximately 1 pm Mondays, Buffista Board time.

Well, not quite, Daniel. We're (I'm) only asking people to avoid discussing the last three episodes-- so it's "all of Firefly except..." rather than "just this episode". But yeah, we're asking to be in Spoilage Lite rather than Spoilers for a little while.