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Firefly Spoilers  

Discussion of all Firefly episodes, including "Trash", "The Message", "Heart of Gold", and any movie news.


Fay - Jul 21, 2003 1:29:15 pm PDT #249 of 1424
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

What Jars said. Should I move my Trash review here, then? But having watched Trash utterly unspoiled I'm all the more loath to be spoiled for any of the other eps, so I kind of don't want to be here. But have skipped as much as I can.

I'm having this whole Doris Day thing, actually, wrt spoilage. Suddenly I want to be a virgin again. Huh.

Short version of Trash review - nekkid Mal! Excellent opening sequence crammed with lovely nekkid Mal and then the Saffron-meeting sequence was brilliant. Oh, just loved everything. Loved the Tams to pieces, really really did. And Zoe's wonderful response to the whole 'Here's the plan' thing was just - damn, that was some good Zoe. All with the eloquent silence and the punching. And Wash! Wash I loved. Yes, I'm grocking the Wash/Zoe love more and more, I have to say. Saffron's wicked cool, and it was great to see her back. And, damn, some fine FX in this ep, I have to say. Really really some fine FX.

Also? I still like Inara. I don't care if I'm alone. I like her. And she has great frocks. Granted the tea sequence was so-so, but I loved the "Ha Ha! I have a big gun and I look pretty" sequence at the end.

Captain No Pants. DAMN, that was good. With the no pants. Heh. And I loved how Fillion played it - so bloody cool and funny. Great stuff.

Sorry there wasn't more Book, 'cause I did love Book in War Stories, but there just isn't time in one ep for everyone to get a chance to shine. Fair enough.


Jars - Jul 21, 2003 1:35:23 pm PDT #250 of 1424

Fay, dude, you are not alone (though don't expect me to sing), because I also like Inara. She's beautiful, and she's got wiles, and better yet, she's got a gun. She's Princess Leia, with better acting and more sex. My brain just went to a weird crossover place. Excuse me.


DXMachina - Jul 21, 2003 1:52:06 pm PDT #251 of 1424
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

She's Princess Leia, with better acting and more sex.

You take that back!!!


Allyson - Jul 21, 2003 1:57:00 pm PDT #252 of 1424
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

You take that back!!!

I'm counting on DX to defend Princess Leia from the blasphemy, because my head just exploded.


Jars - Jul 21, 2003 2:07:09 pm PDT #253 of 1424

Inara even had the wherewithal to not actually throw herself down the garbage chute. Her clothes are too pretty for that.


Fay - Jul 21, 2003 2:08:59 pm PDT #254 of 1424
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Well, you can't argue with the more sex bit. As to the better acting - dude, I love Princess Leia, and I love Carrie Fisher, but I don't know that I'd say her acting is significantly better than Morena's is in Firefly. She gets lots of good snarky lines, but she doesn't actually get to kick all that much butt - I mean, Inara's pretty good with a sword and a gun as well as a put down. And she's got a better wardrobe. And she gets laid way more often, which is nice for her. Also, she has friendships (and sex) with other women, rather than being the sole token female in an ocean of blokes.

Yeah, I'm with you, Jars. The yanks are gonna kill us, like, but I'm with you.


Jars - Jul 21, 2003 2:14:00 pm PDT #255 of 1424

Kill us but dead.


DXMachina - Jul 21, 2003 2:19:40 pm PDT #256 of 1424
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Well, you can't argue with the more sex bit.

She's a hooker! It's her career, and she seems to approach it very clinically. What fun is that? Most of her clients appear to be young men who've never gotten any, ever, and therefore don't know any better.

Do not dis the Leia...


Frankenbuddha - Jul 21, 2003 2:21:30 pm PDT #257 of 1424
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Do not dis the Leia...

Can I dis the majority of her dialogue, at least?

As Harrison Ford said "You can type this shit George, but you sure can't say it."


DXMachina - Jul 21, 2003 2:26:12 pm PDT #258 of 1424
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

et tu, Ken?