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Firefly Spoilers  

Discussion of all Firefly episodes, including "Trash", "The Message", "Heart of Gold", and any movie news.


§ ita § - Sep 24, 2005 12:40:58 pm PDT #1276 of 1424
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My take is that Joss probably doesn't care.


Kiba Rika - Sep 24, 2005 1:27:39 pm PDT #1277 of 1424
I may have to seize the cat.

I think ita's is the most sensible take here, and Matt's is the one the actual show supports best, and mine is based on pure intuitive making stuff up.


§ ita § - Sep 24, 2005 1:34:23 pm PDT #1278 of 1424
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

This is a disjointed emotional response, but there you go. I just watched Justice League Unlimited, and every time Vixen (voiced by GT) speaks, I get a pang of Zoe-sympathy.


Kevin - Sep 24, 2005 5:27:52 pm PDT #1279 of 1424
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Blue Sun in Serenity 2.

ETA: if it happens, duh.


§ ita § - Sep 27, 2005 11:59:40 am PDT #1280 of 1424
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Okay, I'd never read the movie this way:

Whedon fashions a story line that slyly mirrors his own efforts to keep his short-lived show Firefly alive. Serenity focuses on the struggles of a ragtag band of outsiders trying desperately to get a high-tech videotape played on intergalactic television. The Alliance will do anything to keep it off the air, including murdering the only independent broadcaster in the 'verse. The film, right down to the tagline ("You can't stop the signal"), is one big middle finger to Fox TV executives.

Village Voice review.


Allyson - Sep 27, 2005 12:06:30 pm PDT #1281 of 1424
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

You didn't? It's one of the things I found most hilarious. Like, Mal needs to put the Signal out on the internet so people will pass the word and see the mpeg of truth.

The only thing that was missing was the crazy chicks with the intergalactic variety ad.

YOU CANT STOP THE ANVIL.


§ ita § - Sep 27, 2005 12:09:45 pm PDT #1282 of 1424
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Never occurred to me. I am trusting, I suppose.

In fact, I was surprised to see "You can't stop the signal" in the movie. A little more time, and I might have worked it out myself. But I'm way too emotionally involved with the surface of the movie to mess it up by getting meta.


Kalshane - Sep 27, 2005 12:12:36 pm PDT #1283 of 1424
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I didn't see it that way either, for what it's worth.


Allyson - Sep 27, 2005 12:13:21 pm PDT #1284 of 1424
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

It's why I think random webmaster dude got buried with the two main character people. The webmaster is like, the big hero. With the server on that catwalk from Empire.

Hey ita, is that where our server is? Can I have the password so I never have to do battle in case I need to upload a file?


Kevin - Sep 27, 2005 12:29:16 pm PDT #1285 of 1424
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

According to Uncle Joss(tm)(c)(r), Mr Universe ISN'T an internet blogger. I've got him on record about that. He said, in fact, he was a plot device for moving the Reaver battleground. I don't know if that explaination is better..

That said, I'd yes it's 99.999999999999999999999% probable Mr. Universe BECAME Internet bloggers etc during marketing.