Spike: Heard what happened up top, offing your dad and all. Don't know if you know this, but, uh…I killed my mum. Actually, I'd already killed her, and then she tried to shag me, so I had to-- Wesley: Thank you. I'm…very comforted.

'Lineage'


Firefly Spoilers  

Discussion of all Firefly episodes, including "Trash", "The Message", "Heart of Gold", and any movie news.


Allyson - Sep 27, 2005 12:13:21 pm PDT #1284 of 1424
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

It's why I think random webmaster dude got buried with the two main character people. The webmaster is like, the big hero. With the server on that catwalk from Empire.

Hey ita, is that where our server is? Can I have the password so I never have to do battle in case I need to upload a file?


Kevin - Sep 27, 2005 12:29:16 pm PDT #1285 of 1424
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

According to Uncle Joss(tm)(c)(r), Mr Universe ISN'T an internet blogger. I've got him on record about that. He said, in fact, he was a plot device for moving the Reaver battleground. I don't know if that explaination is better..

That said, I'd yes it's 99.999999999999999999999% probable Mr. Universe BECAME Internet bloggers etc during marketing.


Cass - Sep 27, 2005 12:42:42 pm PDT #1286 of 1424
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Never occurred to me. I am trusting, I suppose.
It's the magic in your heart.


Allyson - Sep 27, 2005 12:44:15 pm PDT #1287 of 1424
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

According to Uncle Joss(tm)(c)(r), Mr Universe ISN'T an internet blogger. I've got him on record about that.

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That's hilarious.


§ ita § - Sep 27, 2005 12:45:08 pm PDT #1288 of 1424
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Hey, just because that's not what he was thinking, doesn't mean it's not true.


Scrappy - Sep 27, 2005 12:47:47 pm PDT #1289 of 1424
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Hell, I wrote a play which was done in readings twice before I figured out it was about my marriage breaking up. Once I saw it, it totally was, but it never entered my mind for a second while I was writing.


Allyson - Sep 27, 2005 12:50:27 pm PDT #1290 of 1424
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Once I saw it, it totally was, but it never entered my mind for a second while I was writing.

It's kind of neat when your mind sneaks up on you like that.


Allyson - Sep 27, 2005 1:29:22 pm PDT #1291 of 1424
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

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Cashmere - Sep 27, 2005 4:42:11 pm PDT #1292 of 1424
Now tagless for your comfort.

Didn't see that one coming. Bloggers getting their BVD's in a bunge? Naaaah.

I've been posting about the film in my blog, anyway and so I posted their synopsis in exchage for a free screening.

Fairly simple terms. And for the record, the theatre folks weren't feeling people up for their picture cell phones at my viewing or threatening in any way.

As for the film. That Joss Whedon is a right bastard. *sniff*


Michele T. - Sep 27, 2005 5:03:26 pm PDT #1293 of 1424
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

When I first saw it, I saw the political analogy first, and wondered how conservatives were going to react to the 'people power' story. (I also think, on that level, it's an example of the ways in which liberals tend to believe that if people only had the facts, they'd make the correct (aka liberal) choice about matters, when in fact what we all want is a compelling narrative to buy into, which is why the liberals keep losing, gah, but I digress.)

Then I thought about it and realized it was also a story about the fall and rise of the Firefly crew, and on a certain level it couldn't NOT be, if we take Joss at his word about how traumatic that cancellation was for him. I think a lot of writers, like Robin, like myself, find looking back on our work that the stories we're drawn to are about the things we're working through for ourselves.

This reading, however, makes Wash's death more annoying to me, since it takes a story that can be read as a valentine to the show's fans and adds a spike to it by killing off a character who plays a secondary enough role in the film that the only people who are going to be really upset by the death are the people who helped get the film made in the first place - i.e., the show fans.

(One of my coworkers has become a huge fan of the DVDs since the time I saw the film. He keeps quoting Wash at me. I really don't want to have to deal with him on Monday.)