Allyson, as long as you don't set up SaveWash.com (I mean, somebody did that already) I'm sure you'll be fine.
Jayne: That's a good idea. Good idea. Tell us where the stuff's at so I can shoot you. Mal: Point of interest? Offering to shoot us might not work so well as an incentive as you might imagine.
'Out Of Gas'
Firefly Spoilers
Discussion of all Firefly episodes, including "Trash", "The Message", "Heart of Gold", and any movie news.
Kevin - Sep 23, 2005 2:47:59 pm PDT #1269 of 1424
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
Jars - Sep 23, 2005 2:48:24 pm PDT #1270 of 1424
I didn't think he'd made the decision to turn them in until River cut him. He's childish enough to want payback for it.
Kiba Rika - Sep 23, 2005 2:57:43 pm PDT #1271 of 1424
I may have to seize the cat.
At this point, I believe River can know anything and everything.
Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 23, 2005 3:16:36 pm PDT #1272 of 1424
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
"Safe" would tend to contradict that. Unless she liked the idea of doing a stunning Joan of Arc imitation...
§ ita § - Sep 23, 2005 4:06:58 pm PDT #1273 of 1424
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Knowing is one thing - caring and being effective are two others.
Kiba Rika - Sep 24, 2005 7:13:01 am PDT #1274 of 1424
I may have to seize the cat.
At this point, I believe River can know anything and everything.
"Safe" would tend to contradict that. Unless she liked the idea of doing a stunning Joan of Arc imitation...
What I was meaning to say is that it is not a great leap for me to believe she has flashes of precognition; I very deliberately used "can" rather than "does." Does she know everything? I don't think so. But I think she can see what's coming, what's already been, etc. But she doesn't see it completely, and she doesn't have any control over what she sees.
All interpretation, of course, and something about which I'm willing to just say, "Okay, you think I'm wrong, cool. There isn't particular evidence to support my perception fully. It's just what I think."
Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 24, 2005 12:14:42 pm PDT #1275 of 1424
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
My personal take is that she's clairvoyant and empathic/telepathic, but not precognitive. However, since the former two senses result in her getting information long before other people become aware of situations via their standard 5, it gives the impression of seeing the future when she's actually just hyper-aware of what's going on in the present.
§ ita § - Sep 24, 2005 12:40:58 pm PDT #1276 of 1424
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
My take is that Joss probably doesn't care.
Kiba Rika - Sep 24, 2005 1:27:39 pm PDT #1277 of 1424
I may have to seize the cat.
I think ita's is the most sensible take here, and Matt's is the one the actual show supports best, and mine is based on pure intuitive making stuff up.
§ ita § - Sep 24, 2005 1:34:23 pm PDT #1278 of 1424
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
This is a disjointed emotional response, but there you go. I just watched Justice League Unlimited, and every time Vixen (voiced by GT) speaks, I get a pang of Zoe-sympathy.