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Kiba Rika - Jul 11, 2005 6:26:49 am PDT #1150 of 1424

I may have to seize the cat.

Emotional arc supersedes logic when necessary.

Bingo.

...One of my big problems with the Simon maybe-a-retcon is that they told him exactly what they had done to River. They said stuff about the "stripping process." Which means that "Ariel," and any other time spent figuring out what was wrong with River, becomes unnecessary. That's what bugs me more than the did-he-or-didn't-he? in terms of who was the active agent in River's escape.

Mr. Broom - Jul 11, 2005 8:01:52 am PDT #1151 of 1424

"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor

Not exactly. Simon doesn't necessarily know what "the stripping process" actually means. He's a trauma surgeon, not a brain surgeon, so the procedure could easily be entirely unfamiliar to him. It's very possible he's just playing along, pretending he knows exactly what the man's talking about until he knocks everyone out and rescues her. He may have his theories about what the man's words mean, but since they regard the brain, which is frighteningly complex, theories can be dangerously unhelpful without hard data.

Barry Woodward - Jul 11, 2005 8:31:00 am PDT #1152 of 1424

I fought the law and I won!

And Angel was Spike's sire. Uh-huh.

He was. Any vampire in your blood lineage above you is your sire. So the Master, Darla, Angel and Drusilla are all Spike's sires.

Dana - Jul 11, 2005 8:33:04 am PDT #1153 of 1424

"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

So the Master, Darla, Angel and Drusilla are all Spike's sires.

Yeah, that's the retcon.

Frankenbuddha - Jul 11, 2005 8:35:32 am PDT #1154 of 1424

"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

He was. Any vampire in your blood lineage above you is your sire. So the Master, Darla, Angel and Drusilla are all Spike's sires.

And if you believe that was what the writers thought Spike meant in School Hard, I've got some swamp land in Florida and a bridge you might be interested in purchasing.

Lee - Jul 11, 2005 8:35:48 am PDT #1155 of 1424

The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Plus, Drusilla may have turned Spike, but Angel(us) turned him into a monster.

Poor wittle Spikewikey.

JohnSweden - Jul 11, 2005 8:37:08 am PDT #1156 of 1424

I can't even.

Poor wittle Spikewikey.

t Brain explodes ... again

Spike will be fine, here, just feed him a season's worth of scenery to chew on.

Mr. Broom - Jul 11, 2005 8:41:06 am PDT #1157 of 1424

Seeing as how I know I've heard Spike much later refer to Angel as his grandsire, it's definitely a continuity error. I can recommend several voluntary rehabilitation programs to anyone who needs to come to terms with this.

Frankenbuddha - Jul 11, 2005 8:42:19 am PDT #1158 of 1424

"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Continuity is for wimps.

Or is that context? I disremember.

Kiba Rika - Jul 11, 2005 7:40:55 pm PDT #1159 of 1424

I may have to seize the cat.

I really think it's sexy when people pay attention to continuity. It might actually turn me on, really. Like, really.

That said, I'm not selling the jossisahottie domain any time soon, just because the man completely overlooks backstories he himself made up.

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