She had a couple.

But she was playing (sort of) herself. So maybe that's what she's bad at?

Nah, I just hate her, even if she was acting to beat Meryl Streep.

This is true. But, if this were to hold true, I think Bergdorf Blondes would be equally bad, because if I remember correctly, she'd basically be doing it again.

I think I just don't like to hear her talk. Or see her. Ever.

There was a Buffy reference on Gilmore Girls Tuesday night that made me smile (apologies if it was mentioned already, I skimmed). Paris is getting ready to go out - 'put herself out there' and it is already 11pm. Rory says something along the lines of 'who are you hoping to meet, Spike and Drusilla?'

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God, this is a good thread. As good as we ever were at our very best.

Weird! -- The guy who started the thread in that link has given my band's CDs several positive reviews on Allmusic. No one's perfect?

He comes round to Buffy towards the end. But some of the writing around the middle of the thread is incredibly insightful.

He's a good guy; good writer, too.

Any reviewer who buys my CDs is alright by me.

That is a good thread. It starts out with a bunch of no-caps-users who don't get it, but don't give up on it -- the thoughtful types end up dominating the thread. There's a lot of cross-pollination with music and comics that brings new perspectives to the thread. Examples:

(the description of the "silent" Buffy episode reminds me very much of Marvel's "'Nuff Said!" event month of a couple of years ago where every comic they produced was completely dialogue-free, for example).

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in some ways Buffy is sort of an anglicized anime -- the bizzare fantastic/trivial outsize character soap-opera meets space-opera thing's been happening in anime for years, and sometimes in mildly similar ways.

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I will attempt the over-anticipated and likely k-disappointing Epic Defense tonight, though in the meantime I would start with stop focusing on "Once More with Feeling"! "Once More with Feeling" is like the "Paint a Vulgar Picture" of Buffy: i.e. possibly one of the greatest things it's ever done, but "great" in part because of certain decisions it makes about situating itself as a key, functional point in the context of a much larger story.

These are all things I don't know much about. I was much enlightened by googling "Paint a Vulgar Picture." They also sent me to Google to define Gormenghast, nurse novels, and Habermas. Of course there were some references I could easily get:

while Buffy may be The Beatles of pop tv, and 'Once More with Feeling' may be its 'Sgt Pepper' - the consequence of this is that 'Charmed' is the Monkees.

To people who don't want to read the whole thing I would recommend the discussion about the influence of Chris Claremont on Buffy (search on "totally fakey"; maybe this link should be crossposted to the "Jossverse in other media" thread) and the essay-post "Why I Love Buffy" by Nabisco Sunshine.

while Buffy may be The Beatles of pop tv, and 'Once More with Feeling' may be its 'Sgt Pepper' - the consequence of this is that 'Charmed' is the Monkees.

And the best point is that everyone then starts yelling "except the Monkees are better than the Beatles!".