Nothin'. I just wanted you to face me so she could get behind ya.

Mal ,'The Train Job'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

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Vortex - Oct 05, 2004 9:14:38 am PDT #9065 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I think she was in love with the idea of Riley, but not really him. She always seemed to keep him at arm's length and not really let him in emotionally.

She liked his relative normalcy. She also liked that he knew that she was The Slayer, and that he could hold his own in a fight.

and they totally should have kept Sunday. They sometimes waste villains, like Mr. Trick. I think that they should have let him skip town, to return another day. They still could have had the Faith/Mayor storyline if he had left town.


Betsy HP - Oct 05, 2004 9:17:42 am PDT #9066 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Having both ferrets sick at once is just uncalled for. Especially when one of them is the most beautiful. I'm sorry, Victor.


-t - Oct 05, 2004 9:20:26 am PDT #9067 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I'm sorry to hear about the ferrets, victor.

sumi and Vortex have summed up my position on Buffy and Riley. She wanted to love him, and may have convinced herself she did, but we omniscient viewers know better.


Fred Pete - Oct 05, 2004 9:21:45 am PDT #9068 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

Tending to agree with much of the "did Buffy love Riley" ideas, but I think she also felt the need for A Boyfriend, and Riley loved her.

When she decided not to call Ben, it was like a light bulb went off in her head that it was ok to be unattached. Which suggests to me that she'd been in the mode of "gotta have someone" up until then.


victor infante - Oct 05, 2004 9:24:47 am PDT #9069 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Riley's shining moment was his resigned, "but she doesn't love me."

He should have really just left then, or he and Buffy should have had a slow, painless sizzle. The melodrama only weakened the real pain there. Understatement was called for.


Topic!Cindy - Oct 05, 2004 9:27:07 am PDT #9070 of 10001
What is even happening?

I agree. I felt like Riley (as a character) got trashed. Now that's a weird thing for me to say, because I enjoyed his slide to the pathetic corner of the dark side. I did not enjoy his whinging, though. And I felt badly that he left the way he left. I think that's one of the non-Buffy reasons I liked As You Were. Riley's last note was less sour.


victor infante - Oct 05, 2004 9:33:14 am PDT #9071 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Riley's last note was less sour.

Yeah,that wasn't the best of episodes, but that at least made me happy. Plus, I kind of like the nick and Nora Fury, secret agent stuff. because I am a geek.


Topic!Cindy - Oct 05, 2004 9:34:07 am PDT #9072 of 10001
What is even happening?

I liked it too. I figured we were seeing everything through a miserable!Buffy lens, so it didn't bother me that Samantha seemed so perfect.


Vortex - Oct 05, 2004 9:36:41 am PDT #9073 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Riley's shining moment was his resigned, "but she doesn't love me."

such a great moment. your heart stopped. he should have just fucking sacked up and left. But nooooo, he had to go get munched on by a vampire. Passive aggressive much?


-t - Oct 05, 2004 9:38:24 am PDT #9074 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I'll just sit here and nod.