Everything looks good from here... Yes. Yes, this is a fertile land, and we will thrive. We will rule over all this land, and we will call it... 'This Land.' I think we should call it 'your grave!' Ah, curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal! Ha ha HA! Mine is an evil laugh! Now die! Oh, no, God! Oh, dear God in heaven!

Wash ,'Serenity'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

This is where we talk about Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No spoilers though?if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it. This thread is NO LONGER NAFDA. Please don't discuss current Angel events here.


JenP - Dec 05, 2003 3:19:31 pm PST #6721 of 10001

So, yesterday and today between watching some S1 Angel DVDs and watching F/X Buffy, I realized two repeat actors making appearances (I'm sure most people already know this, these are just my delayed "aha!" moments). Ken from Anne is also in Bachelor Party, and the more heavily featured pool playing girl who is rescued by Angel in City of is one of the girls in Xander's little gang in The Pack (and Cleopatra 2525, and one of the actresses to play Sara on General Hospital, but that's a little off thread, eh?).

Then I noticed Tamara Braun's name in the credits of Lie to Me, and sure enough, she's the vamp into whose mouth Buffy stuffs the cross ... and now she plays Carly on GH, so there's a tie back to GH after all, ha! See, what's the prob? All the GH crossing and they couldn't have gotten Sarah Brown to play Eve? IJS. (Oh, well, hell, then Cleo 2525 has the Jamine connection, so there you go, whole post is, well, at least on topic 'verse if not threadwise).

I'm digging the letting go metaphor, PMM.


Cindy - Dec 05, 2003 3:20:34 pm PST #6722 of 10001
Nobody

t hearting Jen for helping me carry the Sarah Brown torch


JenP - Dec 05, 2003 3:24:15 pm PST #6723 of 10001

The One True Eve. Raise the light high!


Steph L. - Dec 05, 2003 3:45:59 pm PST #6724 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I interrupt to point out how much I hate this criticism of Chosen. This was said to keep women from getting the vote, to keep them out of the pulpit and public office, and the workforce, and from having a drink in goddamn public, to keep them from getting birth control, yada yada yada.

Of course there are risks, but it's worse to keep power from people to whom it rightfully belongs.

t hearting Cindy big and deep


Cindy - Dec 05, 2003 3:47:32 pm PST #6725 of 10001
Nobody

Have I mentioned what a praise whore I am? No. Well then, this is the perfect time.

On with the hearting of me, I say!


Micole - Dec 05, 2003 4:03:21 pm PST #6726 of 10001
I've been working on a song about the difference between analogy and metaphor.

::Nibbles at Cindy's tasty brain::

(Do other boards express admiration via cannibalism?)


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 05, 2003 4:10:12 pm PST #6727 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I don't think this was a perfect solution. I think it was the only solution, and has already done more harm than good, because in the doing, they were able to save the world.

Er, Cindy, didn't you mean more good than harm?


Cindy - Dec 05, 2003 4:11:25 pm PST #6728 of 10001
Nobody

Don't confuse me with facts when I'm drinking a nice Merlot, Matt (or Bruce, as I almost called you--who is Bruce?).

Yes, thank you. I meant it the other way around.

(Do other boards express admiration via cannibalism?)

There are other boards?


smonster - Dec 05, 2003 8:14:23 pm PST #6729 of 10001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Ah. Misunderstanding crossed with duh-ness on my party.

They don't have anything to get beyond (that we know of).

I understood this as getting beyond their problems, not getting beyond their coping mechanisms.

Or does the message of having the power to let go of the bullshit apply only to Buffy (who is of course the whole point of the show)?

Lyra Jane gave a list here of the Scoobies getting over each of their issues.

I would say that no, we don't know that these girls have "Well, at least I can/am ____" coping mechanisms that hold them back somehow, but Joss demonstrated that each of the Scoobies did. This gets into "We don't know that the girls didn't have "Special" issues, either." The show is about Buffy, but also about things we all go through.

And, now that I think about it, one of my friends tonight (offline) reminded me of one of my particular "I'm special" issues and how it harms me. Huh. This is the part where I hear Giles in my head saying "a synchronicity bordering on predestination..."

****

A 'flutter' moment not mentioned, I think. When Tara and Willow joined hands and sent that drink machine slamming against the door.

Also, camera panning to reveal "Was it good for you?" scrawled in blood on the wall.


Volans - Dec 07, 2003 5:49:58 am PST #6730 of 10001
move out and draw fire

(puts hands up)

OK, I cede! I was pushing a little at some points of Plei's idea, in writing-workshop style, to make them stronger and hold up for a larger, less biased audience. I was doing this because I think she's got something good here, something worth thinking about and discussing. I'm not going to defend a stance I didn't take (that females should be kept down): I re-stated my position in my previous post, and it was still misunderstood. So I give up.

I'm also not attacking Plei, or Joss, or the show, just in case that was also misunderstood.