Whoa! I... I think I'm having a thought. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a thought. Now I'm having a plan. Now I'm having a wiggins.

Xander ,'First Date'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

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Sean K - May 14, 2003 12:30:53 pm PDT #49 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Am I alone in the not feeling the Andrew love?

I can't help it with the Andrew love.

I used to be him. Not loving him would bespeak a deap-seated pathology on my part.


askye - May 14, 2003 12:31:24 pm PDT #50 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

When Spike was leaving Sunnydale he said he wanted her to get what she deserved.

But when he was in front of the demon who ended up giving him the soul he said he wanted to be what he was.

That's two different things.


Beverly - May 14, 2003 12:31:34 pm PDT #51 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Shoot! I missed the beginning ... of the end, (sob!).

First 50?

Heh. Barely.


Lyra Jane - May 14, 2003 12:32:42 pm PDT #52 of 10001
Up with the sun

I can't help it with the Andrew love.

I used to be him.

Dude, I've *seen* your purity test results. No way were you Andrew. Unless Andrew had a really interesting Mardi Gras.

And yeah, I'm a total Andrew fangirl.


§ ita § - May 14, 2003 12:33:46 pm PDT #53 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The explanation from the writers was that Spike knew he was going to get his soul. Eh. I'm not as anti-that interpretation as others have been, but they weren't clear.


§ ita § - May 14, 2003 12:34:26 pm PDT #54 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

§ ita § - May 14, 2003 12:35:01 pm PDT #55 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Wolfram - May 14, 2003 12:37:02 pm PDT #56 of 10001
Visilurking

Man, ita's redundant today.


Cindy - May 14, 2003 12:37:02 pm PDT #57 of 10001
Nobody

I'm not as anti-that interpretation as others have been, but they weren't clear.

I'm not either. I think it was poorly executed by the writers, the directors and the actor, but I knew it all along. It was a sloppy misdirection.

WRT Andrew, I would rather have seen Jonathan live. I have to admit I've enjoyed Andrew, but I resent him being as prominent when there's so little time left. I think I would have not felt so resentful had Jonathan filled up all this time. But I really wouldn't have wanted to see Jonathan kill Andrew - I wouldn't have wanted Jonathan to fall that far. So - eh.


ZeusGirl - May 14, 2003 12:38:06 pm PDT #58 of 10001
"Angel and Spike, The Starsky and Hutch of the Netherworld" - Albert Einstein in his speech to the U.N. Security Council, Sept., 1955.

Man, ita's redundant today.

I just thought she really wanted to make that point. It was a good point.