When Spike was leaving Sunnydale he said he wanted her to get what she deserved.
But when he was in front of the demon who ended up giving him the soul he said he wanted to be what he was.
That's two different things.
Bunnies frighten me.
Anya ,'Help'
Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.
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askye - May 14, 2003 12:31:24 pm PDT #50 of 10001
Thrive to spite them
Beverly - May 14, 2003 12:31:34 pm PDT #51 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
Shoot! I missed the beginning ... of the end, (sob!).
First 50?
Heh. Barely.
Lyra Jane - May 14, 2003 12:32:42 pm PDT #52 of 10001
Up with the sun
I can't help it with the Andrew love.
I used to be him.
Dude, I've *seen* your purity test results. No way were you Andrew. Unless Andrew had a really interesting Mardi Gras.
And yeah, I'm a total Andrew fangirl.
§ ita § - May 14, 2003 12:33:46 pm PDT #53 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
The explanation from the writers was that Spike knew he was going to get his soul. Eh. I'm not as anti-that interpretation as others have been, but they weren't clear.
§ ita § - May 14, 2003 12:34:26 pm PDT #54 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
§ ita § - May 14, 2003 12:35:01 pm PDT #55 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Wolfram - May 14, 2003 12:37:02 pm PDT #56 of 10001
Visilurking
Man, ita's redundant today.
Cindy - May 14, 2003 12:37:02 pm PDT #57 of 10001
Nobody
I'm not as anti-that interpretation as others have been, but they weren't clear.
I'm not either. I think it was poorly executed by the writers, the directors and the actor, but I knew it all along. It was a sloppy misdirection.
WRT Andrew, I would rather have seen Jonathan live. I have to admit I've enjoyed Andrew, but I resent him being as prominent when there's so little time left. I think I would have not felt so resentful had Jonathan filled up all this time. But I really wouldn't have wanted to see Jonathan kill Andrew - I wouldn't have wanted Jonathan to fall that far. So - eh.
ZeusGirl - May 14, 2003 12:38:06 pm PDT #58 of 10001
"Angel and Spike, The Starsky and Hutch of the Netherworld" - Albert Einstein in his speech to the U.N. Security Council, Sept., 1955.
Man, ita's redundant today.
I just thought she really wanted to make that point. It was a good point.
Glamcookie - May 14, 2003 12:38:17 pm PDT #59 of 10001
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister
Another problem with the unsouled vs. souled Spike argument for me is that I see very little difference in behavior between the two. Seems like the same guy to me.