Sorry, Captain. I'm real sorry. I shoulda kept better care of her. Usually she lets me know when something's wrong. Maybe she did, I just wasn't paying attention...

Kaylee ,'Out Of Gas'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

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DavidS - Aug 07, 2003 2:07:48 pm PDT #4323 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Voiceover and slow-motion can be very effective. But they can also be very cheesy and abused by hacks. Good slo-mo? The walk in Reservoir Dogs (copied endlessly). Bad Slo-Mo? Buffy's mouse punches during OMWF as Giles sings.


P.M. Marc - Aug 07, 2003 2:24:10 pm PDT #4324 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Best slo-mo? The Reservoir Dogs walk in Sex, Death, and Nudity. Damn, I love Coupling.

Ahem.

Sorry.

Should there have been B/X? I think it would have been a showkiller, even though it was probably the "rightest" of the pairings.

It would have been a showkiller for me for the simple reason that Xander as the avatar of Joss getting the girl would have thrown me so far out I couldn't ever get back in. That's my main objection. Well, that and I have a thing for non-romantic friendships (see: Angel/Cordy, objections to).


Burrell - Aug 07, 2003 2:35:12 pm PDT #4325 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

If Xander is Joss's avatar, and B/X is the OTP, wouldn't that make Xander a Mary Sue?


P.M. Marc - Aug 07, 2003 2:35:58 pm PDT #4326 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

If Xander is Joss's avatar, and B/X is the OTP, wouldn't that make Xander a Mary Sue?

Essentially, yes.


DavidS - Aug 07, 2003 2:37:43 pm PDT #4327 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I don't think B/X is OTP, I just think it was possible at a number of points. I would've preferred that they had a romance and then became friends after that. Ple has convinced me that Buffy should be with Wes.


JohnSweden - Aug 07, 2003 2:51:03 pm PDT #4328 of 10001
I can't even.

If Xander is Joss's avatar, and B/X is the OTP, wouldn't that make Xander a Mary Sue?

Essentially, yes.

I think this is pretty much why it never happened, although I am not hip with the slashy fic lingo or canon.

ETA: (Meaning canon as in the collected fic genre, not as in stuff that appeared on the show and is therefore "true")


Steph L. - Aug 07, 2003 2:56:20 pm PDT #4329 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Buffy sent Angel to hell again.

Stupid allergies. Every. single. time.


DCJensen - Aug 07, 2003 2:58:12 pm PDT #4330 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

A well-handled Xander Sue.


JohnSweden - Aug 07, 2003 2:59:23 pm PDT #4331 of 10001
I can't even.

Stupid allergies. Every. single. time.

Right on. I teared up, and I'm at work staring at a computer screen! Maybe I'll go home and pop B2 into the dvd player.


P.M. Marc - Aug 07, 2003 3:00:15 pm PDT #4332 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

If Xander is Joss's avatar, and B/X is the OTP, wouldn't that make Xander a Mary Sue?

I think this is pretty much why it never happened, although I am not hip with the slashy fic lingo or canon.

Translation: If Xander is Joss's avatar, and Buffy and Xander are the One True Destined Forever Pairing, wouldn't that make Xander a creation defined by masturbatory authorial self-insertion?