If Xander is Joss's avatar, and B/X is the OTP, wouldn't that make Xander a Mary Sue?

I think this is pretty much why it never happened, although I am not hip with the slashy fic lingo or canon.

Translation: If Xander is Joss's avatar, and Buffy and Xander are the One True Destined Forever Pairing, wouldn't that make Xander a creation defined by masturbatory authorial self-insertion?

"Incredibly poignient Sarah McLaughlin song" listed in the script.

I'm with Steph, except they're *manly* allergies....

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Translation: If Xander is Joss's avatar, and Buffy and Xander are the One True Destined Forever Pairing, wouldn't that make Xander a creation defined by masturbatory authorial self-insertion?

Yup.

-crickets-

So, uh, how about that Joss poking his own eye out with his cross-series crush object near the end of S7?

So, uh, how about that Joss poking his own eye out with his cross-series crush object near the end of S7?

Heh. It all makes a delightfully twisted kind of sense.

I'm not the only one who keeps watching the reruns and still waiting for Buffy to get there in time am I? See, if Joss were really a superdupergenious, he would have shot alternate endings for every show, that all made sense and then replayed them years after the show concluded. Or that's just my sick little head going into no new Buffy withdrawl.

But the new video game is looking promising at least.

And with the unfinished business, do you think there was supposed to be more Kendra, but reaction to her was weak and the nixed her? I've always wondered that.

So, uh, how about that Joss poking his own eye out with his cross-series crush object near the end of S7?

Ah, see you're missing the idea that in syllogism logic, both the first and second points need to be true in order for the third to be true. Since B/X is not the OTP, Xander is not necessarily a Mary Sue.

I don't think things ever went well or tragically enough for him, or he was highly enough regarded to be a Mary Sue.

Just authorial insertion.

Ah, see you're missing the idea that in syllogism logic, both the first and second points need to be true in order for the third to be true. Since B/X is not the OTP, Xander is not necessarily a Mary Sue.

No, I get it. The show doesn't really offer us any OTP, in the end, so we're just riffin' here. Thus, my snerk about Joss' masochistic crush on Nate. My suggestion was that B/X was OTP, because it's all about Joss, thus sparking horror (because, y'know, normal guy, not psychotic dead demon). However, that doesn't allow me to get into the real OTP, Buffy/Giles.

[flees]

I don't think B/X is OTP, I just think it was possible at a number of points. I would've preferred that they had a romance and then became friends after that. Ple has convinced me that Buffy should be with Wes.

But Plei is wrong. Buffy needs to go erm...work out her issues with Wesley. They part, their relationship help Wes come to terms with his failure as a watcher and the daddy issues it exacerbated. Buffy, having finally been involved in a relationship of her choosing, not forever from the get go (and also working out her daddy issues), in the end, ends up with Xander.

(BECAUSE THEY ARE THE OTP!!!!!!!!)

Alls I know is, after reading Victor's FE tie-together, I can't ditch D/X.