Could he mean just his and the ME writers books?
If by books you mean comic books, then I'd say yes. He might have only meant his own, too.
He definitely didn't consider things like Golden and Holder's stuff to be canon.
Fred: It's the pictures in my mind that are getting me. It's like being stuck in a really bad movie with those Clockwork Orange clampy things on my eyeballs. Wesley: Why imagine? Reality's disturbing enough.
'Shells'
Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.
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Cindy - Aug 04, 2003 2:47:04 pm PDT #4178 of 10001
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tina f. - Aug 04, 2003 2:55:44 pm PDT #4179 of 10001
If by books you mean comic books, then I'd say yes. He might have only meant his own, too.
This makes sense.
There is still weirdness with Fray being canon because in it, vampires and magic were banished from earth and it more than hints that Buffy and Willow were the banishers (which I guess could still happen) and it gives a lot of info about slayers but fails to mention that there were a mess of new slayers all slayered-up at one time.
But - I am guessing it is all wankable.
I would say edited, but really it was re-written to say something that made a bit of sense.
DCJensen - Aug 04, 2003 3:03:16 pm PDT #4180 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.
There is still weirdness with Fray being canon because of how it alludes to vampires and magic being banished from earth and how Chosen ends (meaning Fray certainly never mentions that there were a mess of new slayers all slayered-up at one time).
But - I am guessing it is wankable.
Could be a punishment by TPTB for creating so many slayers. Or a gift for destroying all unsouled vampires.
tina f. - Aug 04, 2003 3:10:40 pm PDT #4181 of 10001
See now DCJ - you messed me all up by recopying my post before I was able to make it less dumb. : )
DCJensen - Aug 04, 2003 3:20:12 pm PDT #4182 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.
I can change the quote to be your corrected post, tho.
Cindy - Aug 04, 2003 3:20:38 pm PDT #4183 of 10001
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But - I am guessing it is all wankable.
It's wankable quite easily. Stories get changed when they get passed along. It's why I didn't care that what Giles first read about Anyanka in The Wish's wishverse, didn't jibe with stuff we saw later. It's canon that Wish!Giles read a book, but the book doesn't have to be right.
tina f. - Aug 04, 2003 3:25:56 pm PDT #4184 of 10001
I can change the quote to be your corrected post, tho.
It doesn't matter. They aren't really that different.
As far as punishment or reward, you get the impression from the way it is told in Fray that Buffy and Willow (or someother slayer and her magical friend) die or get sucked into a void with all the vamps and magic when they do the banishing. That seems more punishment than reward if the PTB have anything to do with it.
The bigger thing to me is a lack of mentioning the big slayer power up in Chosen. I mean, c'mon, didn't Joss have all this planned out on a big chart in his room when he was 15???
HoyaSaxa - Aug 04, 2003 5:39:24 pm PDT #4185 of 10001
Diablo Robotico Up.
"It's why I didn't care that what Giles first read about Anyanka in The Wish's wishverse, didn't jibe with stuff we saw later. It's canon that Wish!Giles read a book, but the book doesn't have to be right."
Cindy -- excellent point, by the way. The books in the Buffyverse have more than just historical value. As we saw in Angel S3, prophecies can be altered with the right combination of power and intellect. And, more importantly, the way people read said altered prophecies can affect the outcome of continuity. Because the core element of the S3 foreshadowing -- "the father shall kill the son," came true, in S4.
Again, evil attacks with lies. And it does with truth. And "documented" truth. Which makes the books a point of reference, but not entirely reliable.
HoyaSaxa - Aug 04, 2003 5:46:23 pm PDT #4186 of 10001
Diablo Robotico Up.
"The bigger thing to me is a lack of mentioning the big slayer power up in Chosen. I mean, c'mon, didn't Joss have all this planned out on a big chart in his room when he was 15???"
This has to play out in one way or another, either in the comic or perhaps in whatever constitutes the Buffy spinoff, or on Angel S5. Willow just performed a major deus ex machina. MILLIONS of Slayers could have been activated. The African shamans who "managed" the Slayers had their delicate arrangement undone rather quickly. Plus, there was never any guarantee that the First Evil was actually indeed as powerful as it claimed it was.
Willow may have overreacted. In the short-term, no, because the asset Buffy and Co. needed was an army of slayers against the Turok-Han army. But in the long-term? More slayers could end up meaning more Faiths circa-S3 Buffy. That isn't a good thing altogether.
So what do I think? I think the Slayers turn on themselves. I'm saying War of the Slayer Succession.
I fanwank way too much.
Cass - Aug 04, 2003 5:52:08 pm PDT #4187 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
I mean, c'mon, didn't Joss have all this planned out on a big chart in his room when he was 15Of course he did. I'm gonna go finish all my veggies and wait for Santa Claus
Which really sounds snarky which I *really* don't mean. I want to believe that it is all planned out and there is a big reason and that if I am very good, Joss will make everything allright...
Um, going back to lurking here for a while...