Willow: Yes. Hi. You must be Angel's handsome, yet androgynous, son. Connor: It's Connor. Willow: And the sneer's genetic. Who knew?

'A Hole in the World'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

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Cindy - Jul 31, 2003 5:21:38 am PDT #3984 of 10001
Nobody

UTTAD - I don't see how she dealt with it on any level.

She shrunk from his touch in Beneath You. She was using him as her guide dog the next episode. Soon, he was living in her house.

Argh. I have to go. Scott stayed home today so we could get things done, and we're not (especially not the "me" part of "we"). Later gators.


sumi - Jul 31, 2003 5:22:34 am PDT #3985 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Well, not only different from the rest of BTVS but different from the rest of the episode. If they'd filmed the rest of the episode the same way -- it might have felt slightly less manipulative.


UTTAD - Jul 31, 2003 5:23:50 am PDT #3986 of 10001
Strawberry disappointment.

Cindy Sorry I meant Buffy as a TV show, not as an individual. They dealt (or tried to deal) with it, as the over-riding theme of the season, her getting her power on.


Jenny_G - Jul 31, 2003 5:34:11 am PDT #3987 of 10001
One eye out for highway danger, the other out for fruit. - fr. Martin Mull's Truckdrivin' Songs for the Eight Basic Food Groups

In much of S7, people had to really struggle to take their power, and had to go through a lot of emotional & mystical crap to get there - whether it was Anya's confrontation with d'Hoffryn, Willow's invisibility, Buffy's face-off with the African guys, or Dawn's realization that she's valuable even if she's not a potential. Buffy's way of getting her power back from Spike seemed to be to simply ignore that they had ever had an unhealthy relationship that culminated in a rape. That's a cop-out.


kat perez - Jul 31, 2003 5:34:23 am PDT #3988 of 10001
"We have trust issues." Mylar

Nice article in the LA Times about AH here.

She has some awfully nice words for BTVS fans:

" 'Buffy' fans know my name and are really sincere and articulate in how they talk about the show. You can feel the work has touched them in some way or that my character has helped them in their life. You walk away from a fan experience like that and just feel so proud to have been a part of something that could have been such a part of people's lives."


UTTAD - Jul 31, 2003 5:39:36 am PDT #3989 of 10001
Strawberry disappointment.

Buffy's way of getting her power back from Spike seemed to be to simply ignore that they had ever had an unhealthy relationship that culminated in a rape. That's a cop-out.

Yes. Yes it is.


Allyson - Jul 31, 2003 5:53:05 am PDT #3990 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

but isn't better that they tackle these things head on?

But they didn't tackle anything.

Attempted Rape.

Mystical Magical Sunblocking Flying Motorcycle to Africa to Get a Soul

Gee Buffy, Spike Tried to Rape You

Yeah, but it was no Big. 'Sides, he went and Soulified, Dawnie!

He has a soul.

He has a soul.

He has a soul.

Crazy Basement Spike.

Annoyed Buffy.

Too Many Potentials.

Spike turns water into wine and dies for our sins.

Everything at Mutant Enemy seems to have fallen apart in 6-7. Folks confuse the word "dark" with the word, "crap."


UTTAD - Jul 31, 2003 5:54:41 am PDT #3991 of 10001
Strawberry disappointment.

S7 was well dodgy, but I still think S6 was one of the best.


Allyson - Jul 31, 2003 6:11:48 am PDT #3992 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Did you watch from Season one, on? Or did you become a fan later in the series?


Jim - Jul 31, 2003 6:19:58 am PDT #3993 of 10001
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

I watched from season one, and I flat disagree with your readig of the last two seasons. Sure, they were messy (although I don't object to them just dumping the AR when they realised what a sore point it was) but they were the most inventive and unconventional seasons.