Don't worry, we're sure to spot Faith first. She's like this cleavagy slut-bomb walking around 'Ooh, check me out, I'm wicked-cool, I'm five-by-five.'

Willow ,'Get It Done'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

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Allyson - Jul 31, 2003 5:53:05 am PDT #3990 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

but isn't better that they tackle these things head on?

But they didn't tackle anything.

Attempted Rape.

Mystical Magical Sunblocking Flying Motorcycle to Africa to Get a Soul

Gee Buffy, Spike Tried to Rape You

Yeah, but it was no Big. 'Sides, he went and Soulified, Dawnie!

He has a soul.

He has a soul.

He has a soul.

Crazy Basement Spike.

Annoyed Buffy.

Too Many Potentials.

Spike turns water into wine and dies for our sins.

Everything at Mutant Enemy seems to have fallen apart in 6-7. Folks confuse the word "dark" with the word, "crap."


UTTAD - Jul 31, 2003 5:54:41 am PDT #3991 of 10001
Strawberry disappointment.

S7 was well dodgy, but I still think S6 was one of the best.


Allyson - Jul 31, 2003 6:11:48 am PDT #3992 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Did you watch from Season one, on? Or did you become a fan later in the series?


Jim - Jul 31, 2003 6:19:58 am PDT #3993 of 10001
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

I watched from season one, and I flat disagree with your readig of the last two seasons. Sure, they were messy (although I don't object to them just dumping the AR when they realised what a sore point it was) but they were the most inventive and unconventional seasons.


UTTAD - Jul 31, 2003 6:22:08 am PDT #3994 of 10001
Strawberry disappointment.

Watched from S1.


DCJensen - Jul 31, 2003 7:34:17 am PDT #3995 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

I guess the only mitigating factor that the writers could pull out for the attempted rape seem to be that "Spike was drunk, alcohol is a depressant, remember what happened to Angel when he got drugged? Angelus came out to play."

It wouldn't make it alright, but they didn't even try to play that card. At least if it had been brought up, it could have been discussed as a possible attempt at explaination.


Cindy - Jul 31, 2003 8:00:08 am PDT #3996 of 10001
Nobody

But that only worked with Angel because the drug was some sort of agent that made him feel euphoric (not a depressant), thereby I dunno - sorta tricking him into feeling like his soul was gone.

(IOW - that one took a lot of wankery, too)


Lady O' Spain - Jul 31, 2003 8:05:48 am PDT #3997 of 10001
Red hair and black leather--my favorite color scheme.

I guess the only mitigating factor that the writers could pull out for the attempted rape seem to be that "Spike was drunk, alcohol is a depressant, remember what happened to Angel when he got drugged? Angelus came out to play."

Except that Angel's soul was restored by a curse that would steal the soul away again if Angel experienced true happiness. (Hence the euphoria drug.) As far as we know, Spike's soul was simply restored, without the "true happiness" clause. So happy pills wouldn't work on him like that.

(IOW - that one took a lot of wankery, too)

ITA. It did.


Jessica - Jul 31, 2003 8:07:15 am PDT #3998 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

But why would they have wanted mitigating factors in SR at all? They needed Spike to have a moment of clarity about his being a soulless being -- impossible to have that happen if he could blame his behavior on any outside force.


UTTAD - Jul 31, 2003 8:28:28 am PDT #3999 of 10001
Strawberry disappointment.

Mitigating factor for how Buffy behaved in S7, not for what Spike did in Seeing Red maybe.