In much of S7, people had to really struggle to take their power, and had to go through a lot of emotional & mystical crap to get there - whether it was Anya's confrontation with d'Hoffryn, Willow's invisibility, Buffy's face-off with the African guys, or Dawn's realization that she's valuable even if she's not a potential. Buffy's way of getting her power back from Spike seemed to be to simply ignore that they had ever had an unhealthy relationship that culminated in a rape. That's a cop-out.
Young Simon: So... how'd the Independents cut us off? Young River: They were using dinosaurs.
'Safe'
Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.
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Jenny_G - Jul 31, 2003 5:34:11 am PDT #3987 of 10001
One eye out for highway danger, the other out for fruit. - fr. Martin Mull's Truckdrivin' Songs for the Eight Basic Food Groups
kat perez - Jul 31, 2003 5:34:23 am PDT #3988 of 10001
"We have trust issues." Mylar
Nice article in the LA Times about AH here.
She has some awfully nice words for BTVS fans:
" 'Buffy' fans know my name and are really sincere and articulate in how they talk about the show. You can feel the work has touched them in some way or that my character has helped them in their life. You walk away from a fan experience like that and just feel so proud to have been a part of something that could have been such a part of people's lives."
UTTAD - Jul 31, 2003 5:39:36 am PDT #3989 of 10001
Strawberry disappointment.
Buffy's way of getting her power back from Spike seemed to be to simply ignore that they had ever had an unhealthy relationship that culminated in a rape. That's a cop-out.
Yes. Yes it is.
Allyson - Jul 31, 2003 5:53:05 am PDT #3990 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
but isn't better that they tackle these things head on?
But they didn't tackle anything.
Attempted Rape.
Mystical Magical Sunblocking Flying Motorcycle to Africa to Get a Soul
Gee Buffy, Spike Tried to Rape You
Yeah, but it was no Big. 'Sides, he went and Soulified, Dawnie!
He has a soul.
He has a soul.
He has a soul.
Crazy Basement Spike.
Annoyed Buffy.
Too Many Potentials.
Spike turns water into wine and dies for our sins.
Everything at Mutant Enemy seems to have fallen apart in 6-7. Folks confuse the word "dark" with the word, "crap."
UTTAD - Jul 31, 2003 5:54:41 am PDT #3991 of 10001
Strawberry disappointment.
S7 was well dodgy, but I still think S6 was one of the best.
Allyson - Jul 31, 2003 6:11:48 am PDT #3992 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Did you watch from Season one, on? Or did you become a fan later in the series?
Jim - Jul 31, 2003 6:19:58 am PDT #3993 of 10001
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!
I watched from season one, and I flat disagree with your readig of the last two seasons. Sure, they were messy (although I don't object to them just dumping the AR when they realised what a sore point it was) but they were the most inventive and unconventional seasons.
UTTAD - Jul 31, 2003 6:22:08 am PDT #3994 of 10001
Strawberry disappointment.
Watched from S1.
DCJensen - Jul 31, 2003 7:34:17 am PDT #3995 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.
I guess the only mitigating factor that the writers could pull out for the attempted rape seem to be that "Spike was drunk, alcohol is a depressant, remember what happened to Angel when he got drugged? Angelus came out to play."
It wouldn't make it alright, but they didn't even try to play that card. At least if it had been brought up, it could have been discussed as a possible attempt at explaination.
Cindy - Jul 31, 2003 8:00:08 am PDT #3996 of 10001
Nobody
But that only worked with Angel because the drug was some sort of agent that made him feel euphoric (not a depressant), thereby I dunno - sorta tricking him into feeling like his soul was gone.
(IOW - that one took a lot of wankery, too)