Still bugs me that she wouldn't go out with him but she would nail 2 vampires and a Psyc TA.

She wanted to have sex with them. She didn't want to have sex with Xander. What should she have done, led him on and pretended that she wanted something she didn't? More hurt feelings in the long run.

But for me that's kinda tempered

Oh, sure. I think When She Was Bad is kind of over the top, but I'm willing to excuse the occasional bad behavior resulting from trauma. That's just the only big example of Buffy taking advantage of Xander's feelings for her.

She still should have gave him a shot though

When's the last time you gave someone you weren't interested in a shot? Especially when a good friendship (and perhaps saving the world) was on the line?

I've bristled every time it's been suggested I give a guy "a chance" when I my reasons for not doing so are a simple lack of attraction. Buffy doesn't have a responsibility to the men attracted to her, not one like that.

I still think that the whole Dawn's crush on Xander means that Buffy actually had feelings of attraction towards him at one time or another too. You know the whole, Dawn was made from Buffy idea. I may be reaching here, but it is all I have left now.

Then again Buffy was never a klepto so my fanwank is short lived.

I know different folks have different takes on potential relationships, but aside from "Bewitched, Bothered, and Bewildered" I think the writers and cast were very careful to never portray any mutual attraction between Buffy and Xander. They established that "you're like one of the girls!" dynamic very early on, and never wavered.

Then again Buffy was never a klepto so my fanwank is short lived.

I believe she was, in LA, but I can't think of the reference right now.

I believe she was, in LA, but I can't think of the reference right now.

Becoming Part One, it gets mentioned in the flashback to Angel seeing Bufy for the first time.

When's the last time you gave someone you weren't interested in a shot? Especially when a good friendship (and perhaps saving the world) was on the line?

One time I gave a girl a shot and the other time I didnt. In retrospect both of them were mistakes and I wish I could have swapped the two choices. But those were both a VERY long time ago.

Right now with my work schedule and living arrangements I am lucky to see a female more than once a week outside of work.

Becoming Part One, it gets mentioned in the flashback to Angel seeing Buffy for the first time.

Sure, come in with the answer while I am doing the research. I was just going to say, Victor would know. Here is Buffy's line:

"You're not from Bullock's are you Cause I-I meant to pay for that lipstick."

My fanwank lives on. How could I forget that wonderful school steps scene with Dirty!Angel watching Buffy and her sucker from afar.

Delurking to chime in on the X/B 'ship. One of the many things I love about BtVS is that X/B never became a romantic/sexual one. On any other show, at some point, they would have dated, or whatever. All male/female relationships are reduced to sexual attraction/truw lurv, but never friendships. It's as if men and women can never be friends. Good, loving, caring friends, of all genders, are as important as sexual relationships. If the Scoobies are a "metaphorical" family for Buffy, then any sexual/romantic relationship with Xander would be incest. And I say this as someone who has always had male friends who are very important to me. I really liked seeing that portrayed on a TV show. PS, I've been lurking since the Table Talk days, but only have internet access at home, and it's very hard to keep up. I've enjoyed reading everyone's posts, analysis, insights, etc., and I think that both the show and these forums have made me a more critical consumer of popular culture.