Giles, if you would like to get by in American society, then you are going to have to follow our traditions. You're the patriarch. You have to host the festivities, or it's all meaningless.

Buffy ,'Sleeper'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

This is where we talk about Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No spoilers though?if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it. This thread is NO LONGER NAFDA. Please don't discuss current Angel events here.


sj - Jul 28, 2003 8:27:44 pm PDT #3766 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Becoming Part One, it gets mentioned in the flashback to Angel seeing Buffy for the first time.

Sure, come in with the answer while I am doing the research. I was just going to say, Victor would know. Here is Buffy's line:

"You're not from Bullock's are you Cause I-I meant to pay for that lipstick."


Gleebo - Jul 28, 2003 8:29:43 pm PDT #3767 of 10001
"God...my brilliance is now becoming a bit of a burden...get back to me." Dr. Cox - Scrubs

My fanwank lives on. How could I forget that wonderful school steps scene with Dirty!Angel watching Buffy and her sucker from afar.


CateM - Jul 28, 2003 8:31:26 pm PDT #3768 of 10001
"'Narf' is 'Fran' spelled backwards." - my brother's coworker

Delurking to chime in on the X/B 'ship. One of the many things I love about BtVS is that X/B never became a romantic/sexual one. On any other show, at some point, they would have dated, or whatever. All male/female relationships are reduced to sexual attraction/truw lurv, but never friendships. It's as if men and women can never be friends. Good, loving, caring friends, of all genders, are as important as sexual relationships. If the Scoobies are a "metaphorical" family for Buffy, then any sexual/romantic relationship with Xander would be incest. And I say this as someone who has always had male friends who are very important to me. I really liked seeing that portrayed on a TV show. PS, I've been lurking since the Table Talk days, but only have internet access at home, and it's very hard to keep up. I've enjoyed reading everyone's posts, analysis, insights, etc., and I think that both the show and these forums have made me a more critical consumer of popular culture.


Connie Neil - Jul 28, 2003 8:32:50 pm PDT #3769 of 10001
brillig

When's the last time you gave someone you weren't interested in a shot?

dissolving in mingled laughter and nostalgia for college. Gosh, what was his name?

But there are people who were friends that I wish I had given a chance, but I was too hung up on one particular guy. Ah, well.


Gleebo - Jul 28, 2003 8:34:32 pm PDT #3770 of 10001
"God...my brilliance is now becoming a bit of a burden...get back to me." Dr. Cox - Scrubs

Connie, the one that I didn't give a chance was for the same reason as you. I was so hung up on a girl that wanted to be friends that I couldn't see past the blinders she had on me. Crushes suck ass.


sj - Jul 28, 2003 8:34:53 pm PDT #3771 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

When's the last time you gave someone you weren't interested in a shot?

I have done this twice. I have lived to regret it twice.


victor infante - Jul 28, 2003 8:35:57 pm PDT #3772 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I know different folks have different takes on potential relationships, but aside from "Bewitched, Bothered, and Bewildered" I think the writers and cast were very careful to never portray any mutual attraction between Buffy and Xander. They established that "you're like one of the girls!" dynamic very early on, and never wavered.

I quite agree. In fact, the only time I ever suspected it might waver was early on in season seven, when they started taking on that married couple dynamic, especially with Dawn.

As to ships, I have nothing against them, per se, but I think my fundamental problem with them, when taken to extremes, is that they push too much toward defining characters by their relationships, when a good deal of the show has been about doing the exact opposite.


Gleebo - Jul 28, 2003 8:38:35 pm PDT #3773 of 10001
"God...my brilliance is now becoming a bit of a burden...get back to me." Dr. Cox - Scrubs

I agree on the whole Buffy and Xander 'its better that they stayed friends deal' even though it still grates my cheese that she never gave him a chance. Im weird like that.


Daisy Jane - Jul 28, 2003 8:42:03 pm PDT #3774 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Crushes suck ass.

Not always. I've had crushes that never went anywhere, but I still liked having them. All the thrill and butterflies of liking someone without the committment. I hope that I was kind in a not leading on way to the few people who had crushes on me.


Susan W. - Jul 28, 2003 8:47:34 pm PDT #3775 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Susan, that's my assumption too, but it would be clearer if I knew who the hell Voldemort was.

Oh, der. It just shows how much the HPverse has imprinted my brain, that it never occurred to me to explain that part of it. But it looks like it was answered upthread.