Do you see any goats around? No, because I sacrificed them.

Willow ,'Showtime'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

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ZeusGirl - May 21, 2003 11:32:15 am PDT #1631 of 10001
"Angel and Spike, The Starsky and Hutch of the Netherworld" - Albert Einstein in his speech to the U.N. Security Council, Sept., 1955.

Connie, I guess I'm just a sucker at heart. Although I'm not sure we can say how many there were. We only saw a handful a girls empowered, aside from the SiTs. Maybe those handful were the only other Slayerettes out there. And even if there were a thousand, is that really so many in a world of billions?

And maybe that little girl hits that ball out the park and never picks up a bat again. Who knows what happens to these girls now that they have the power? Maybe some abuse it, as happened with Faith. I guess it's all just up to human nature.

Joss showed just enough to move me, and not so much as to make it cheesy for me. But I can see the other side of the coin.


Dana - May 21, 2003 11:32:26 am PDT #1632 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

hey, I know, a handicapped girl walks!

She wasn't handicapped. She was rising into frame to stop someone from hitting her.


§ ita § - May 21, 2003 11:34:03 am PDT #1633 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

And the softball player is going to knock it out of the ballpark, never question why she's so strong, go to college on a softball scholarship, and all because she's got Slayer strength and speed now.

Not if Willow et al. do what they said they were going to do, no.


Connie Neil - May 21, 2003 11:35:00 am PDT #1634 of 10001
brillig

I don't harsh mellows I toast them.

I was all for Buffy sharing out the power, but I was thinking just among the SiTs there around her. That would have worked. The rest of it was too much.

Oh, and Willow being more powerful than the guys who created the Slayer in the first place? That was over the top for me, too. You feel sorry for the guys in the Buffyverse. "Xander, Giles, Robin, Spike--oh, and Andrew, but maybe not, because we're not so sure about you--put your fingers in your ears, we're going to have a rallying speech about the power of women and how it's going to kick butt."


Aims - May 21, 2003 11:35:15 am PDT #1635 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

She was rising into frame to stop someone from hitting her.

She was my favorite. She was being abused, she was empowered to stop it from EVER happening again and she was the only one that wasn't "beautiful", she wasn't a size 2 little hottie.


Susan W. - May 21, 2003 11:35:32 am PDT #1636 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

And the softball player is going to knock it out of the ballpark, never question why she's so strong, go to college on a softball scholarship, and all because she's got Slayer strength and speed now.

I think she knows she's a slayer, and enjoys the athletic benefits by becoming the first female major league star, but also uses her abilities to Fight Crime as her team travels from city to city.

I will not commit badfic.
I will not commit badfic.
I will not commit badfic.


ZeusGirl - May 21, 2003 11:35:45 am PDT #1637 of 10001
"Angel and Spike, The Starsky and Hutch of the Netherworld" - Albert Einstein in his speech to the U.N. Security Council, Sept., 1955.

You know what was really funny? I caught the last ten minutes of Enough on HBO after the Buffy finale. Made me want to gag after having seen someone spend seven years empowering women in an honest, interesting, and responsible manner.


Dana - May 21, 2003 11:37:33 am PDT #1638 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I think she knows she's a slayer, and enjoys the athletic benefits by becoming the first female major league star, but also uses her abilities to Fight Crime as her team travels from city to city.

t snerk


Connie Neil - May 21, 2003 11:38:09 am PDT #1639 of 10001
brillig

I thought there was a line there about not being able to walk but now being able to. Could be wrong.

If you've got the power, fine, have the power, use the power, don't make speeches about having the power. I'm glad people felt vindicated and stronger, but power is in what you do--or don't do--not in what you say.


Betsy HP - May 21, 2003 11:38:47 am PDT #1640 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Oh, and Willow being more powerful than the guys who created the Slayer in the first place?

That was about Willow specifically.