Oh, and Willow being more powerful than the guys who created the Slayer in the first place?

That was about Willow specifically.

Sorry, folks, this is not something I would do, it is not the way I would like to be treated, and I'm going to teach my children not to act this way. Them's my values.

I can aprreciate that, wenda, and I don't want to knock or discourage your views, but I have to say that I've snuggled with lots of people when neither of us were in love or even in danger of getting nookie, and I feel like you're saying that my snuggling with freinds is somehow "using" or "bad" or "something to teach your kids never to do."

I doubt you intend that, and I certainly hope you don't realize that you're sort of condeming a whole bunch of scenarios that don't fit into this set of definitions you're using, but I do feel condemned a little, and don't necessarily appreciate it.

I thought there was a line there about not being able to walk but now being able to.

I thought it was stand and by that I took it as standing up for themselves when they couldn't at first.

And by stand I mean.....

If you've got the power, fine, have the power, use the power, don't make speeches about having the power.

As a survivor of '70s feminism, I disagree. There's a discovery moment, when you realize "My God! I DO have the power!". You're entitled to make speeches about that moment.

That was about Willow specifically.

Yes, I know.

Willow being more powerful than the guys who created the Slayer in the first place? That was over the top for me, too.

The same Willow who almost ripped the world apart last year, who couldn't be out powered? Doesn't surprise me at all.

have the power, use the power, don't make speeches about having the power.

Who shouldn't make speeches? Buffy? She never spoke about having the power. She spoke about sharing the power. And since she was making a pitch, it seemed like a good time to bring it up.

Or am I missing a speech?

I've snuggled with lots of people when neither of us were in love or even in danger of getting nookie

How much do I love the expression "in danger of getting nookie," hmm?

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(Just, umm, pretend those are arms, mmkay?)

You have 3 arms?

As a survivor of '70s feminism, I disagree

I remember that stuff, thought it didn't happen directly to me. I have never felt unempowered. I should have qualified my statements by saying they applied to me. If those shots made people feel good, wonderful. They made me cringe.

Too bad, too, that so many of the precious few minutes were wasted by Kennedy and Angel kissing.

And on a lighter note - where was I when Angel and Kennedy kissed? That's a plot twist I wouldn't have seen coming.

On a more serious note, I repeat what I said a few days ago: despite a mid-season drag (a common Buffy occurence, IIRC), and the Giles-weirdness (no explanation that I can see for that, sadly), I've liked this season about 4th best of all 7 seasons - dead in the middle. And even 5 (at the bottom) had some good eps, was better than just about anything else out there, etc., it just had a hella-crap main arc.