I think that sounds like a very reasonable suggestion, Kat.
Mal: Cut it out. Job's not done until we're back on Serenity. Zoe: Sorry, sir. Didn't mean to enjoy the moment.
'Ariel'
Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer
A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.
Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych
Astarte - Apr 01, 2004 6:57:03 pm PST #8978 of 10005
Not having has never been the thing I've regretted most in my life. Not trying is.
Sean K - Apr 01, 2004 7:01:03 pm PST #8979 of 10005
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
I would also like to "second" Kat's comment.
Can we please not bring up Jen K to support or refute any arguments around here? Pretty much none of the people who have brought her up as an example of anything were directly involved in what happened, and really have no idea what all was involved in her leaving.
Allyson was involved, and has a right to comment, and when she does so, she speaks only for her end of things, but anybody else should only ever speak about it to the extent they were involved, if at all.
And this also serves to illustrate why bringing up nameless lurkers in support of an argument is so frowned upon and reacted to so poorly - any interpretation of someone else's unspoken position is invariably hopelessly polluted by the perspective of the interpreter.
Trudy Booth - Apr 01, 2004 7:09:24 pm PST #8980 of 10005
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
Good gravy, people. We can't speak in generalities but we can't speak in specifics without an affadavit?
Aimee and I both expressed our impressions of Jen's leaving. David expressed his. Believe either or both or neither or form your own opinion. Or drop Jen a note.
This is a discussion, not a dissertation.
Sean K - Apr 01, 2004 7:13:13 pm PST #8981 of 10005
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
We can't speak in generalities but we can't speak in specifics without an affadavit?
The point of all of it is to just generally not speak for other people, but only for yourself.
§ ita § - Apr 01, 2004 7:15:01 pm PST #8982 of 10005
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
All we'd be doing is engaging in speculation, Trudy, and what use is that? How can you use it to sway someone's mind, or use it as ballast?
Trudy Booth - Apr 01, 2004 7:15:34 pm PST #8983 of 10005
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
Tricky for people who aren't here to talk about why they aren't, isn't it?
§ ita § - Apr 01, 2004 7:16:18 pm PST #8984 of 10005
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Tricky for people who aren't here to talk about why they aren't, isn't it?
And trickier for us to talk about it. So maybe we should, as Kat suggested, stop.
Trudy Booth - Apr 01, 2004 7:18:35 pm PST #8985 of 10005
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
If you don't care that and why people get unhappy and leave I suppose that is an option.
Sean K - Apr 01, 2004 7:23:20 pm PST #8986 of 10005
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Caring or not caring has nothing to do with it.
It has to do with speaking for yourself, and not speaking for other people.
§ ita § - Apr 01, 2004 7:23:56 pm PST #8987 of 10005
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Trudy, JenK can tell us why she got unhappy and left. JohnH can tell us why he left ... and so on. If they haven't, we're just engaging in gossip and speculation. Or vague references, which we can't use to learn from.
So what's the point?