Caring or not caring has nothing to do with it.
It has to do with speaking for yourself, and not speaking for other people.
Now we're saving a vampire from vampires. I got two words for that -- Nuh and uh.
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Sean K - Apr 01, 2004 7:23:20 pm PST #8986 of 10005
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
§ ita § - Apr 01, 2004 7:23:56 pm PST #8987 of 10005
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Trudy, JenK can tell us why she got unhappy and left. JohnH can tell us why he left ... and so on. If they haven't, we're just engaging in gossip and speculation. Or vague references, which we can't use to learn from.
So what's the point?
Lee - Apr 01, 2004 7:24:00 pm PST #8988 of 10005
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
Trudy, No one is saying that. They are just trying not to put words in other people's mouths or guess what they might feel. It is a good thing.
Trudy Booth - Apr 01, 2004 7:27:38 pm PST #8989 of 10005
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
So people should make "I'm leaving and not coming back and here's why" statements before we'll discuss their departures? And that discussion would be anything other than "boy, that was childish?"
Here's an idea, go back and look at Elena's posts. She's not coming back for a good long time if ever.
Kristen - Apr 01, 2004 7:28:06 pm PST #8990 of 10005
Also, Jen was fairly upfront about saying that she didn't fault Allyson for expressing herself the way she did. So if we're going to keep referencing it, maybe we could at least include that as a disclaimer.
Lee - Apr 01, 2004 7:32:24 pm PST #8991 of 10005
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
So people should make "I'm leaving and not coming back and here's why" statements before we'll discuss their departures? And that discussion would be anything other than "boy, that was childish?"
Here's an idea, go back and look at Elena's posts. She's not coming back for a good long time if ever.
If they want to, sure. It's up to them. If they don't, I am not going to say I know why they left.
eta: I am sorry Elena left. I wish she hadn't. I don't know what that has to do with Jen's leaving though.
§ ita § - Apr 01, 2004 7:33:59 pm PST #8992 of 10005
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Trudy, if you have the facts about JenK, share them, and convince us why you know the truth.
Except I don't really want to say that, because I don't think it's your place, and that it's incredibily rude to pretend it is.
If what Elena posted is her explaining why she's never coming back, then voila! No hearsay, actual evidence.
I can't believe I'm having to take a stand against talking behind someone's back in public about something so sensitive and personal.
Where is that polite?
Consuela - Apr 01, 2004 7:40:02 pm PST #8993 of 10005
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
I'm with ita.
I don't really know why JenK left, anymore than I know why John H left. If they wanted me to know, they'd have told me.
They didn't, therefore it's not my business.
Nor yours, to tell me.
Sean K - Apr 01, 2004 7:41:29 pm PST #8994 of 10005
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
What. ita. said.
Scrappy - Apr 01, 2004 7:43:24 pm PST #8995 of 10005
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
Trudy, unless JenK or anyone else asked me to speak for them, I would feel uncomfortable using them and their feelings to bolster an argument,
even if I knew what those feelings were.
I think you are being honest here and I admire that, but it does involve speaking for someone else, and about a subject that is painful for them. I think there is too much possibilty of misspeaking and even MORE hurt feelings there.