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Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

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Sean K - Apr 01, 2004 7:13:13 pm PST #8981 of 10005
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

We can't speak in generalities but we can't speak in specifics without an affadavit?

The point of all of it is to just generally not speak for other people, but only for yourself.


§ ita § - Apr 01, 2004 7:15:01 pm PST #8982 of 10005
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

All we'd be doing is engaging in speculation, Trudy, and what use is that? How can you use it to sway someone's mind, or use it as ballast?


Trudy Booth - Apr 01, 2004 7:15:34 pm PST #8983 of 10005
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Tricky for people who aren't here to talk about why they aren't, isn't it?


§ ita § - Apr 01, 2004 7:16:18 pm PST #8984 of 10005
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Tricky for people who aren't here to talk about why they aren't, isn't it?

And trickier for us to talk about it. So maybe we should, as Kat suggested, stop.


Trudy Booth - Apr 01, 2004 7:18:35 pm PST #8985 of 10005
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

If you don't care that and why people get unhappy and leave I suppose that is an option.


Sean K - Apr 01, 2004 7:23:20 pm PST #8986 of 10005
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Caring or not caring has nothing to do with it.

It has to do with speaking for yourself, and not speaking for other people.


§ ita § - Apr 01, 2004 7:23:56 pm PST #8987 of 10005
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Trudy, JenK can tell us why she got unhappy and left. JohnH can tell us why he left ... and so on. If they haven't, we're just engaging in gossip and speculation. Or vague references, which we can't use to learn from.

So what's the point?


Lee - Apr 01, 2004 7:24:00 pm PST #8988 of 10005
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Trudy, No one is saying that. They are just trying not to put words in other people's mouths or guess what they might feel. It is a good thing.


Trudy Booth - Apr 01, 2004 7:27:38 pm PST #8989 of 10005
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

So people should make "I'm leaving and not coming back and here's why" statements before we'll discuss their departures? And that discussion would be anything other than "boy, that was childish?"

Here's an idea, go back and look at Elena's posts. She's not coming back for a good long time if ever.


Kristen - Apr 01, 2004 7:28:06 pm PST #8990 of 10005

Also, Jen was fairly upfront about saying that she didn't fault Allyson for expressing herself the way she did. So if we're going to keep referencing it, maybe we could at least include that as a disclaimer.