I hate to break it to you, oh impotent one, but you're not the big bad anymore, you're not even the kind of naughty.

Xander ,'Showtime'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Laura - Oct 16, 2016 4:00:46 pm PDT #9978 of 10289
Our wings are not tired.

Thank you, Strix. I know that wasn't easy and I both understand and agree.


Anne W. - Oct 16, 2016 4:02:12 pm PDT #9979 of 10289
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

But being genuinely sorry doesn't mean shit in this kind of situation; demonstrating, over and over and over again, that you are no longer a toxic person is the only thing that really matters.

This. THIS. THIS. Thank you, Strix.


Lee - Oct 16, 2016 4:08:29 pm PDT #9980 of 10289
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I've been hesitant to say anything on this since I am not here enough to feel like I should have much of a vote, but I support the stompy ban, and hate that this whole thing has happened.


Zenkitty - Oct 16, 2016 4:52:16 pm PDT #9981 of 10289
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Strix and Trudy laying down some wisdom.


Strix - Oct 16, 2016 5:18:14 pm PDT #9982 of 10289
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

(I feel better about posting; thank you for your kindnesses.)


Aims - Oct 16, 2016 5:20:28 pm PDT #9983 of 10289
Shit's all sorts of different now.

I had no idea and have no words. Posting something to let y'all at least know that my vote will be there to make the quorum.


Susan W. - Oct 16, 2016 6:08:47 pm PDT #9984 of 10289
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

He got a lot of slack because he was a maladjusted kid. He received forgiveness and discretion because we knew how screwed up his upbringing was. Many of us have been and even continue to be awkward or damaged or outsiders or otherwise have a lot to learn and extended kindness to him out of empathy as much as anything else.

Delurking to applaud this, and to say that my perspective on the situation is similar to Barb's, though not observed quite so up close and personal. When I saw this situation break open on Twitter, I was disappointed but not really surprised.


Vortex - Oct 16, 2016 7:19:27 pm PDT #9985 of 10289
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I'm sorry that this has happened to our community; this is a safe space for many, including me. It's even harder that it's coming from someone that I considered part of the community. For those that were affected, I hope that we've shown that we love and support you.


WindSparrow - Oct 16, 2016 7:59:24 pm PDT #9986 of 10289
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

One thing I have learned in life is that in cases of serious harm, forgiveness does not, cannot mean protection from natural consequences. Forgiveness does not always mean a restoration of a relationship, good as new. It is possible to like, to care deeply, to love someone and separate from that person as the rightful, healthy response to harm they have done. Speaking publically of what a person has done is not vengeful, even if the consequences that fall from widespread knowledge of those actions are long-lasting and vigorous.

I don't quite know how to bring this statement to a close - wishing healing for all who have hurt.


DCJensen - Oct 16, 2016 8:20:44 pm PDT #9987 of 10289
All is well that ends in pizza.

I'm fine with a bullshit consensus in this case, and someone should probably also remove him from the facebook group if that hasn't already been done.

I have blocked Sunil from the Buffistas Facebook page for the comfort of everyone else there.

I added him to it when I created the page, I figured it was my duty to revoke.

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