Sure. Revised:
Proposal: Due to a long-term pattern of harassment, suspend the standard warnings procedure to allow the Stompies to ban Polter-Cow from the board immediately.
Saffron: He's my husband. Mal: Well, who in the damn galaxy ain't?
'Trash'
Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!
We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!
Dana - Oct 16, 2016 11:45:11 am PDT #9946 of 10289
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."
Amy - Oct 16, 2016 11:49:15 am PDT #9947 of 10289
Because books.
So we're voting to suspend procedure? (Also, I'm fine with that, just clarifying. I ... did not watch a lot of Law and Order, so.)
msbelle - Oct 16, 2016 11:50:08 am PDT #9948 of 10289
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
Yes, the vote is NOT on the banning, the vote is on the suspension of written procedure in this case, so that banning can be immediate without suspension and yada yada.
Cass - Oct 16, 2016 11:58:38 am PDT #9949 of 10289
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
I do think we need to follow our own rules, despite viscerally wanting him gone now now now. Dana's revised proposal is appropriate. We'll vote. We'll give the Stompies the authority to immediately ban and we can hope the community heals and valued members return.
Zenkitty - Oct 16, 2016 11:58:50 am PDT #9950 of 10289
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
I kinda feel like I just got told that that twinge in my knee that I thought was just a thing that happened when a storm was coming is actually a tumor. How could I not have noticed?
Except I know many habits and characteristics I have that would let me not notice. I'm so sorry.
I feel this way too. I'm upset that I never saw it, that I didn't let myself accept the seriousness of what I did see. I'm really sorry, both that we've lost people over this, and that my silence might have in any way contributed to their leaving.
I would vote for Dana's proposal. I feel he's had enough warnings and chances already, and more importantly, if he should return to the board, it would only cause more harm.
Sean K - Oct 16, 2016 12:01:12 pm PDT #9951 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
I concur with Debet's proposed language.
There's just no part of this that isn't upsetting.
This.
Trudy Booth - Oct 16, 2016 12:33:17 pm PDT #9952 of 10289
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
I looked at the Smugglers link and I'm hopping someone can provide some clarification for me. The term "grooming" is used. To my understanding, this is a behavior engaged in by an adult abuser towards a child.
Is this term being used differently than my understanding or is there minor involvement in this long, sad, sordid, saga?
Hil R. - Oct 16, 2016 12:34:29 pm PDT #9953 of 10289
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
I haven't heard anything about any kids being involved. It seems like people are expanding the definition of the word.
Dana - Oct 16, 2016 12:35:29 pm PDT #9954 of 10289
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."
I haven't heard anything like that either.
Sean K - Oct 16, 2016 12:41:01 pm PDT #9955 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
I was assuming the use of "grooming" was in the context of "prepping the next target." I still assume that's its only meaning.