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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Lee - Nov 07, 2009 9:07:09 pm PST #9371 of 10289
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I am not sure I know the righ way to say this, but while I definitely am in favor of having a "shit happens" attitude for myself, I'm not crazy about voting on how people should feel or act.


Pix - Nov 07, 2009 9:41:03 pm PST #9372 of 10289
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

I think I see what you're saying, Perkins. FWIW, I didn't mean that to be the point of the proposal--the closing of the thread and opportunity for regifting was the main point. That wording was more just suggesting that the "regifting" period focus on next steps rather than accusations. How people feel is up to them, of course, but since we try to be a positive, supportive place overall, I thought that would be more in the spirit of the board.


NoiseDesign - Nov 07, 2009 9:47:23 pm PST #9373 of 10289
Our wings are not tired

As one of the people who has slacked epically this year, I can say that I already know that I screwed up, I feel pretty rotten about the length of time that it has taken, and it feels even worse to have it drilled into me, and now to also be blamed for ruining the whole spirit of the thread. Trust me, had I know that I'd suck this badly at getting my gift sent I never would have participated and I've learned my lesson and won't do so again.

It is now November and my gift has finally made it into a box and into my car and in theory was going to be mailed on Friday. Alas, LA traffic proved to be a massive time suck, and now I leave on a business trip tomorrow morning and return Tuesday evening. If all goes well it will be overnighted on Wednesday.

Time limits and rules are fine, but that should be the extent of it, not a judgement on the person that fucked up.


Lee - Nov 07, 2009 9:50:01 pm PST #9374 of 10289
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

And I get that, but all the same, I think it's legitimate for someone who has spent a lot of time, thought, and effort into picking out a gift for someone to feel bummed and a little burned if they get absolutely nothing in return, so it bothers me that it's written into the proposal that they have to have an upbeat attitude about it.

eta: Obvious cross post there--I was responding to PK's post.


Pix - Nov 07, 2009 9:52:17 pm PST #9375 of 10289
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

We can take that parenthetical out if it's going to be an issue. It was never meant to actually dictate an attitude.

Proposal: To set a closing deadline of March 31st for the Goodbye and Good Riddance Thread, with the caveat that any ungifted Santa or Slacker Santa giftees at that point will have the option to throw their names back into the pool to be gifted by other volunteers. This would be a way for people who found themselves unable to gift for one reason or another to bow out gracefully and for everyone to get closure on the year without the thread going on for months.


Lee - Nov 07, 2009 9:55:31 pm PST #9376 of 10289
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

That works better for me, obviously, so thanks. I wasn't trying to speak for anyone else though.


Pix - Nov 07, 2009 9:56:09 pm PST #9377 of 10289
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

No worries. This is the fun that Lightbulbs is all about! Besides, it was a valid point.


JenP - Nov 08, 2009 5:40:59 am PST #9378 of 10289

I'm in favor of the proposal as worded and think it's a good idea.

(Thanks for making the official proposal, Kristin. I was waiting for the Proposal Fairy. Is s/he like the Credit Fairy? Bummer.)


-t - Nov 08, 2009 6:32:05 am PST #9379 of 10289
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Just so I have this clear in my mind, at the end of March if anyone remains ungifted, Goodbye and Good Riddance would remain open for another month for the round of pinch-gifting (which would go on until the end of April?)

When does Goodbye and Good Riddance open, again, is that set?


Mala - Nov 08, 2009 6:32:11 am PST #9380 of 10289

That works better for me, obviously, so thanks. I wasn't trying to speak for anyone else though.

I'm just a crazy little lurker, but thank you for bringing up that adjustment in wording. I was trying to write that post, but failed. I wish I were the type of person that didn't get hurt by things like this, but I am not, and I am sure there are others. I understand that shit happens, and I sympathize with people to whom it happens, but I am unable to get past it anyway (call it the downside of ISTJ-ness). I don't participate in exchanges like this for that reason, because I know myself too well.