And don't you ever stand for that sort of thing. Someone ever tries to kill you, you try to kill 'em right back! ... You got the right same as anyone to live and try to kill people.

Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


-t - May 15, 2008 3:09:43 pm PDT #8754 of 10289
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

How about Dependent Questions - anything that is along the lines of "If Q1 passes then we need to decide this other thing" doesn't have to pass quorum as long as Q1 does.


-t - May 15, 2008 3:12:08 pm PDT #8755 of 10289
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Somebody remind me, if a proposal doesn't have 42+ votes can it be brought up again before 6 months?


Laga - May 15, 2008 3:15:43 pm PDT #8756 of 10289
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I don't understand voting if you have no preference but if other people want to I think the option should be available. I like that the person who suggests a proposal has the option of framing the voting how they see fit.


§ ita § - May 15, 2008 3:24:09 pm PDT #8757 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Now, if we'd never had the whole no preference discussion, one could just introduce it ad hoc on a vote by vote basis, no?

Just like I could put forth a vote and frame it as being totted up preferentially? How much control do I actually have?


Kat - May 15, 2008 3:24:19 pm PDT #8758 of 10289
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I hate no preference on ballots. I guess I fall into the camp of "If you don't have an opinion, don't vote."

Thinking of other voting times, it's pretty rare that you get a No Preference option (Presidential candidates []republican []democrat []don't really care).

And it just seems like such a cop-out. Voting is about deciding, about choosing. And saying, No Preference seems to be saying, "I don't want to choose. I want other people to decide for me. I want people to get what they want, but I don't want to be a part of that process of knowing what the fuck is going on and choosing."


Laga - May 15, 2008 3:30:16 pm PDT #8759 of 10289
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I could put forth a vote and frame it as being totted up preferentially?

you can? neat.


Jesse - May 15, 2008 3:31:11 pm PDT #8760 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Apparently No Preference is an official voting choice, not just an option? [link]

Sophia Brooks: "You may vote yes, no or abstain from the vote for each separate item. Obviously, you may only vote once." It is up to the proposer (when writing the ballot) to determine what sort of vote it will be. The simplest option is a yes/no/no preference vote, but other kinds of votes have successfully been tried.


brenda m - May 15, 2008 4:21:27 pm PDT #8761 of 10289
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I could put forth a vote and frame it as being totted up preferentially?

Pretty sure not. And if you can, then I want those nine days of my life back that we spent deciding if you could.


Jessica - May 15, 2008 4:24:46 pm PDT #8762 of 10289
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I think it's probably a good idea to raise the bar in terms of number of participants -- and I don't think voting NP is really participating. I don't think "most people don't care one way or the other" (whether shown by not voting or by voting NP) to be a good enough reason to do something.

I agree with this.


§ ita § - May 15, 2008 4:24:52 pm PDT #8763 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think it's important we are sure how optional parts of the voting process are before we vote on losing them. It should seem that there will be a no-pref vote on this. Shouldn't it?