Now, if we'd never had the whole no preference discussion, one could just introduce it ad hoc on a vote by vote basis, no?
Just like I could put forth a vote and frame it as being totted up preferentially? How much control do I actually have?
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§ ita § - May 15, 2008 3:24:09 pm PDT #8757 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Kat - May 15, 2008 3:24:19 pm PDT #8758 of 10289
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
I hate no preference on ballots. I guess I fall into the camp of "If you don't have an opinion, don't vote."
Thinking of other voting times, it's pretty rare that you get a No Preference option (Presidential candidates []republican []democrat []don't really care).
And it just seems like such a cop-out. Voting is about deciding, about choosing. And saying, No Preference seems to be saying, "I don't want to choose. I want other people to decide for me. I want people to get what they want, but I don't want to be a part of that process of knowing what the fuck is going on and choosing."
Laga - May 15, 2008 3:30:16 pm PDT #8759 of 10289
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.
I could put forth a vote and frame it as being totted up preferentially?
you can? neat.
Jesse - May 15, 2008 3:31:11 pm PDT #8760 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Apparently No Preference is an official voting choice, not just an option? [link]
Sophia Brooks: "You may vote yes, no or abstain from the vote for each separate item. Obviously, you may only vote once." It is up to the proposer (when writing the ballot) to determine what sort of vote it will be. The simplest option is a yes/no/no preference vote, but other kinds of votes have successfully been tried.
brenda m - May 15, 2008 4:21:27 pm PDT #8761 of 10289
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
I could put forth a vote and frame it as being totted up preferentially?
Pretty sure not. And if you can, then I want those nine days of my life back that we spent deciding if you could.
Jessica - May 15, 2008 4:24:46 pm PDT #8762 of 10289
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
I think it's probably a good idea to raise the bar in terms of number of participants -- and I don't think voting NP is really participating. I don't think "most people don't care one way or the other" (whether shown by not voting or by voting NP) to be a good enough reason to do something.
I agree with this.
§ ita § - May 15, 2008 4:24:52 pm PDT #8763 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I think it's important we are sure how optional parts of the voting process are before we vote on losing them. It should seem that there will be a no-pref vote on this. Shouldn't it?
Kat - May 15, 2008 4:30:50 pm PDT #8764 of 10289
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
ita, why?
Have there been votes without No Preference?
§ ita § - May 15, 2008 4:32:31 pm PDT #8765 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I'm pretty sure they have been. I'm just trying to work out if we voted that No Preference was an option, or we voted that it was supposed to be there at all times.
Jon B. - May 15, 2008 4:32:52 pm PDT #8766 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
We have already had at least one vote where the proposer decided that there would be no NP option, and there wasn't.
I could put forth a vote and frame it as being totted up preferentially?
Absolutely. This has come up on several occasions, but no one's ever proposed a ballot that used it.
Pretty sure not. And if you can, then I want those nine days of my life back that we spent deciding if you could.
That was for one particular ballot (or maybe a couple) from when we were deciding how the voting process would work. But we never said it couldn't be used on future ballots.