I hate no preference on ballots. I guess I fall into the camp of "If you don't have an opinion, don't vote."

Thinking of other voting times, it's pretty rare that you get a No Preference option (Presidential candidates []republican []democrat []don't really care).

And it just seems like such a cop-out. Voting is about deciding, about choosing. And saying, No Preference seems to be saying, "I don't want to choose. I want other people to decide for me. I want people to get what they want, but I don't want to be a part of that process of knowing what the fuck is going on and choosing."

I could put forth a vote and frame it as being totted up preferentially?

you can? neat.

Apparently No Preference is an official voting choice, not just an option? [link]

Sophia Brooks: "You may vote yes, no or abstain from the vote for each separate item. Obviously, you may only vote once." It is up to the proposer (when writing the ballot) to determine what sort of vote it will be. The simplest option is a yes/no/no preference vote, but other kinds of votes have successfully been tried.

I could put forth a vote and frame it as being totted up preferentially?

Pretty sure not. And if you can, then I want those nine days of my life back that we spent deciding if you could.

I think it's probably a good idea to raise the bar in terms of number of participants -- and I don't think voting NP is really participating. I don't think "most people don't care one way or the other" (whether shown by not voting or by voting NP) to be a good enough reason to do something.

I agree with this.

I think it's important we are sure how optional parts of the voting process are before we vote on losing them. It should seem that there will be a no-pref vote on this. Shouldn't it?

ita, why?

Have there been votes without No Preference?

I'm pretty sure they have been. I'm just trying to work out if we voted that No Preference was an option, or we voted that it was supposed to be there at all times.

We have already had at least one vote where the proposer decided that there would be no NP option, and there wasn't.

I could put forth a vote and frame it as being totted up preferentially?

Absolutely. This has come up on several occasions, but no one's ever proposed a ballot that used it.

Pretty sure not. And if you can, then I want those nine days of my life back that we spent deciding if you could.

That was for one particular ballot (or maybe a couple) from when we were deciding how the voting process would work. But we never said it couldn't be used on future ballots.

we voted that No Preference was an option, or we voted that it was supposed to be there at all times.

We never voted either way. It was decided that the proposer could choose how the ballot was set up.