I could put forth a vote and frame it as being totted up preferentially?
Pretty sure not. And if you can, then I want those nine days of my life back that we spent deciding if you could.
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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!
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brenda m - May 15, 2008 4:21:27 pm PDT #8761 of 10289
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
Jessica - May 15, 2008 4:24:46 pm PDT #8762 of 10289
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
I think it's probably a good idea to raise the bar in terms of number of participants -- and I don't think voting NP is really participating. I don't think "most people don't care one way or the other" (whether shown by not voting or by voting NP) to be a good enough reason to do something.
I agree with this.
§ ita § - May 15, 2008 4:24:52 pm PDT #8763 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I think it's important we are sure how optional parts of the voting process are before we vote on losing them. It should seem that there will be a no-pref vote on this. Shouldn't it?
Kat - May 15, 2008 4:30:50 pm PDT #8764 of 10289
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
ita, why?
Have there been votes without No Preference?
§ ita § - May 15, 2008 4:32:31 pm PDT #8765 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I'm pretty sure they have been. I'm just trying to work out if we voted that No Preference was an option, or we voted that it was supposed to be there at all times.
Jon B. - May 15, 2008 4:32:52 pm PDT #8766 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
We have already had at least one vote where the proposer decided that there would be no NP option, and there wasn't.
I could put forth a vote and frame it as being totted up preferentially?
Absolutely. This has come up on several occasions, but no one's ever proposed a ballot that used it.
Pretty sure not. And if you can, then I want those nine days of my life back that we spent deciding if you could.
That was for one particular ballot (or maybe a couple) from when we were deciding how the voting process would work. But we never said it couldn't be used on future ballots.
Jon B. - May 15, 2008 4:34:03 pm PDT #8767 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
we voted that No Preference was an option, or we voted that it was supposed to be there at all times.
We never voted either way. It was decided that the proposer could choose how the ballot was set up.
Kat - May 15, 2008 4:34:57 pm PDT #8768 of 10289
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
It's so funny, Brenda, because I remember preferential voting was a big irritant for me and now my response remains, "whatever." I remember being really passionately against it. But I couldn't tell you why at this point. Probably because, in practice, it hasn't been an issue.
msbelle - May 15, 2008 5:07:25 pm PDT #8769 of 10289
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
Jesse - that bit you quoted does not read to me as anything other than saying no pref is an option. It does not read to me as a requirement.
I might add right here - that this is a GREAT example of why someone (not me, I have none of this time stuff) needs to pull together the voting rules as well as a document that tracks all previous votes and outcomes.
Laga - May 15, 2008 5:20:57 pm PDT #8770 of 10289
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.
Are the voting rules in the Cheesebutt? (I've never read the whole thing)