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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


DavidS - Apr 15, 2003 3:08:24 pm PDT #801 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Has the issue been addressed about how/when/whether a complaint can be registered again if it doesn't receive it's 10 seconds in 24 hours?

I mean, if I decide that msbelle is wearing entirely too much pink and I want her warned about that, and I only get 9 seconds in 24 hours is there a rule about how long I have to wait before I lobby vigorously against her offensive pinkery and try to get that 10th second?


msbelle - Apr 15, 2003 3:11:37 pm PDT #802 of 10289
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

David - the answer in taht case is never, Just FYI.

Deena, I'll get it.


askye - Apr 15, 2003 3:13:06 pm PDT #803 of 10289
Thrive to spite them

The way Deena had it worded if a compliant doesn't 10 seconds in 24 hrs that offense can't be brought up for warning again, however it can be refered to as an example of a pattern of behaviour.


Deena - Apr 15, 2003 3:14:46 pm PDT #804 of 10289
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

yeah, except I think everyone's behind 48 hours now. Which is still cool with me.


askye - Apr 15, 2003 3:16:15 pm PDT #805 of 10289
Thrive to spite them

I meant 48 hrs sorry.


Deena - Apr 15, 2003 3:17:26 pm PDT #806 of 10289
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

That's okay Askye. I feel like I'm not saying anything I mean anymore.


msbelle - Apr 15, 2003 3:26:19 pm PDT #807 of 10289
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Here is where my head is at the moment for ballot items:

PROPOSAL: The following procedure will be in place for warning a poster about unacceptable behaviour.

1. A user-complainant will try to resolve the complaint on-thread. If unsuccessful,
2. A user-complainant (does not need to be same person) will post in-thread that it's time to meet in Bureaucracy.
3. A user-complainant posts in Bureaucracy outlining complaint and linky citations, and requests a Warning.
4. At least 10 other users in 48 hours second the need for a Warning. If 10 other users do not complain within the 48 hour period, no complaint can be made again about that particular incident, unless it is being used to illustrate, with others, a pattern of demon-like behaviour.
5. As soon as the request for warning receives 10 seconds, Stompy sets forth a Warning over email and in Bureaucracy.

Yes/No

Proposal: A two-month suspension will be issued if a poster receives a second warning within 4 months. A second warning would be issued following the same procedure.

Yes/No


§ ita § - Apr 15, 2003 3:38:55 pm PDT #808 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Proposal: A two-month suspension will be issued if a poster receives a second warning within 4 months. A second warning would be issued following the same procedure

Hmm. I'd remove the two-month, since that's not up for decision. In fact, to remove the suspension also, how about saying that a warning comes off a poster's record four months from its issue?

The result of a second warning is a different thing from this ballot at hand, and I don't want to confuse the two.


arby - Apr 15, 2003 3:46:28 pm PDT #809 of 10289
Guy #1: Man, there are so many hipsters around. I hate hipsters! Guy #2: You're at the wrong place. That's like going to Vegas only to say "I hate titties!" --The Warsaw, Williamsburg (OINY)

I agree with ita, take out the second part (below the first "Yes/No") for now - that can be a separate proposal.

Can I just say, the fact that an official Buffista proposal has the word "linky" in it? Cracks me up. I love you guys.

{{Buffistas}}


Burrell - Apr 15, 2003 3:53:02 pm PDT #810 of 10289
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

So, as a catch-up reader. let me see if I get it:

1) 10 complaints = warning? or 10 complaint = warning *unless* the offender either makes nice-nice in the thread or over in Bureaucracy?

2) Enforced apologies have been seen as the worthless things they are, so apology is not required, but behavior modification is.

3) Time limit for bringing up a complaint regarding a specific incident is 3 days? That isn't in the ballot yet, right? Also, once a complaint has been raised, all past hurts and whines may be brought up?

Okay, running off to run more errands. I expect that there will be 50 more posts when I return.