Proposal: A two-month suspension will be issued if a poster receives a second warning within 4 months. A second warning would be issued following the same procedure

Hmm. I'd remove the two-month, since that's not up for decision. In fact, to remove the suspension also, how about saying that a warning comes off a poster's record four months from its issue?

The result of a second warning is a different thing from this ballot at hand, and I don't want to confuse the two.

I agree with ita, take out the second part (below the first "Yes/No") for now - that can be a separate proposal.

Can I just say, the fact that an official Buffista proposal has the word "linky" in it? Cracks me up. I love you guys.

{{Buffistas}}

So, as a catch-up reader. let me see if I get it:

1) 10 complaints = warning? or 10 complaint = warning *unless* the offender either makes nice-nice in the thread or over in Bureaucracy?

2) Enforced apologies have been seen as the worthless things they are, so apology is not required, but behavior modification is.

3) Time limit for bringing up a complaint regarding a specific incident is 3 days? That isn't in the ballot yet, right? Also, once a complaint has been raised, all past hurts and whines may be brought up?

Okay, running off to run more errands. I expect that there will be 50 more posts when I return.

This is how I see it:

1) 10 complaints = warning? or 10 complaint = warning *unless* the offender either makes nice-nice in the thread or over in Bureaucracy?

There wouldn't, I believe it is supposed, be 10 complaints if the offender makes nice nice. Or, some of the complaints will likely be withdrawn if the offender waits to make nice until after it goes to bureacracy. Still, making nice would probably make it go away, until the next time, if there is a next time.

2) Enforced apologies have been seen as the worthless things they are, so apology is not required, but behavior modification is.

Yes

3) Time limit for bringing up a complaint regarding a specific incident is 3 days? That isn't in the ballot yet, right? Also, once a complaint has been raised, all past hurts and whines may be brought up?

No, two days, and it depends on the nature of the complaint.

Complaint type A: "Poster Monkeypants just talked about my momma and, no matter what I've said, won't stop talking about my momma, so I want a warning," and 10 other people chime in with, "yes, that was terrifically offensive to me as a buffista and a momma and a momma haver."

Complaint type B: "Over the past couple of months, Poster Monkeybritches has posted rude things about my momma, and I've been trying to ignore it, but she also makes racial slurs, sexual orientation slurs, and then backs off and says she'll leave, but then comes back and does it again the next day, over and over again and I'm tired of ignoring it and I think it's hurting the whole board." And then 10 other buffistas chime in with, "Yes, this is offensive to me...", etc.

There should be NO complaints in Bureau if teh poster makes nice nice in the thread. The process is in-thread attempt first - then complain in Bureau. You don't try in-thread first, I smack you.

I will not put anything in a proposal about apologies.

I will think about putting something in the proposal about time-limits to bring up a specific incident.

I will reword the second proposal to the following, but I am pretty sure going to propose more than one issue on this ballot.

Proposal: Warnings will be in effect for 4 months. A second warning would be issued following the same procedure.

There should be NO complaints in Bureau if teh poster makes nice nice in the thread. The process is in-thread attempt first - then complain in Bureau. You don't try in-thread first, I smack you.

Absolutly!

I'm a little scared of msbelle now.

huh, I find it kinda attractive

t leer

Apparently I'm both Jesse and Deena.

amyth! Get msbelle a pink pony, too.

The work I have to do! Ack! You think these pink ponies are easy to come by?

Proposal sounds good to me so far.