Giles: I'm sure we're all perfectly safe. Dawn: We're safe. Right. And Spike built a robot Buffy to play checkers with. Tara: It sounded convincing when I thought it.

'Dirty Girls'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Jon B. - Jul 17, 2007 10:29:14 am PDT #7317 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

How so?

I mean that you write a post and then people comment on the post immediately below that post. But I don't use LJ, so I'm probably ignorant of some co-mingling functionality.


Beverly - Jul 17, 2007 10:29:46 am PDT #7318 of 10289
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I just don't get this. Is there more going on than Frank's one comment, that would stifle discussion?

Frank wasn't the only one who was uncomfortable with the volume and...volume of squee and flail.


P.M. Marc - Jul 17, 2007 10:34:17 am PDT #7319 of 10289
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Yeah, it's threaded comments, but the flist isn't threaded. So the effect of reading the flist is a mishmash of stuff all in a row.

I just don't get this. Is there more going on than Frank's one comment, that would stifle discussion?

Steph, I think this comment by Denise sums it how (irrationally or no) Bev and I are feeling right now.

Why go back to Boxed Set and risk talking too much about another show that the thread was established for and then be told that you're talking too much about it? I know that may not be people's intentions, but that's the message that I see being floated out there.


Cass - Jul 17, 2007 10:36:27 am PDT #7320 of 10289
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I just don't get this. Is there more going on than Frank's one comment, that would stifle discussion?
There have been over 350 posts in here. It wasn't a one comment thing or the first time this came up inthread. I thought we'd found a working compromise but obviously we didn't.

I actually feel horrible for Frankenbuddha that this issue has become so emotional for everyone but it obviously is and something has to change.

I think the format here works better than lj for discussing SPN. But it's not just about the format. If we get the thread, we'll go there. If we don't, we'll still find places to talk.

eta

sums it how (irrationally or no) Bev and I are feeling right now.
And me. I don't like feeling like this, but I do.


Amy - Jul 17, 2007 10:37:42 am PDT #7321 of 10289
Because books.

That was Denise.

"Signal to noise ratio" was the part that pinged me. Although I still don't think Frank meant any harm by it. Zen said all the talk had turned her *off* the show, too. (I think. Zen, was that you?)


Ailleann - Jul 17, 2007 10:37:43 am PDT #7322 of 10289
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

You can get a sense about how many people are posting about it, but even then, if you're not actually counting, it's easy to get distracted by people who are posting a lot, or posting passionately, or whatever. And god knows how many people have an opinion but haven't posted it in this thread.

It makes one wonder who feels what way. Which can ultimately only be determined by voting.

But I always wonder if the average reader/lurker who comes to this looking to form an opinion will think "man, it seems like a lot of people want X, so I'll vote that way." Which maybe isn't what the "actual" "majority" wants.

I have a feeling that the flail will be restrained if we (we = SPNers) remain in Boxed Set. Because we want to respect the desires of our fellow posters, and not get our peanut butter all up in their chocolate, and no one will be able to tell us to clear the hell out again for six months. (Using, you know, the royal "we" above.)


§ ita § - Jul 17, 2007 10:38:11 am PDT #7323 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I will say that I felt a little weird posting about Padalecki's hair in BS the other night

I was curious about how the discussion would go, and thought this:

Let the record show that the Boxed Set thread has now completed the 7th grade slumber party portion of its programming, and will now revert to discussion of sci fi TV shows. We thank you for your patience

therefore interesting.

I ask again, what is the mark of success for Boxed Set? It's a place to talk about shows you like, but not shows you like too much? It's a place for people to talk with you about shows you like and shows you may like?

Are we all really (mediafannishness aside) looking at it that differently?


Glamcookie - Jul 17, 2007 10:38:32 am PDT #7324 of 10289
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

I really hate that you guys feel that way and wish we could fix it. FWIW, I am not "voting you guys out of BS." I'm voting for being able to find content that I'm looking for quickly (in both BS and SPN, should it be created). I love the squee. I love the SPN boys. I also love BSG. And this would make locating discussion on both easier. That is all. As new shows come, we'll hit this again and again. It should be based on volume of posts/interest. No new show is going to start in its own thread (unless it's a Jossverse show).

t /disjointed post


Sophia Brooks - Jul 17, 2007 10:39:32 am PDT #7325 of 10289
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Wow- I probably have never posted in boxed set, but would be interested in an SPN thread because I just started talking about it. I am horribly saddened that people won't feel lie they can talk about TV and squee here somewhere, because I want to talk about shows here, and find it easier when they are in separate threads. I hate to speak for people, but I don't think anyone wanted people to have their feelings hurt or to make people feel pushed out.

When it comes to voting and consensus, I have to reiterate that I agree with everything Jesse has said-- we have no idea how many people feel a certain way until the vote comes in. This is certainly a vote where I would feel inclined to vote no preferance because I cannot figure out what would be best for the board except a time machine, and I just want all the people with hurt feelings to get what they want.


Amy - Jul 17, 2007 10:40:19 am PDT #7326 of 10289
Because books.

Let the record show that the Boxed Set thread has now completed the 7th grade slumber party portion of its programming, and will now revert to discussion of sci fi TV shows. We thank you for your patience

See, that? Stung. Even though Nutty was squeeing, too, I believe, which made it more confusing.

I don't want to have to squee and then apologize for it.