Wow- I probably have never posted in boxed set, but would be interested in an SPN thread because I just started talking about it. I am horribly saddened that people won't feel lie they can talk about TV and squee here somewhere, because I want to talk about shows here, and find it easier when they are in separate threads. I hate to speak for people, but I don't think anyone wanted people to have their feelings hurt or to make people feel pushed out.

When it comes to voting and consensus, I have to reiterate that I agree with everything Jesse has said-- we have no idea how many people feel a certain way until the vote comes in. This is certainly a vote where I would feel inclined to vote no preferance because I cannot figure out what would be best for the board except a time machine, and I just want all the people with hurt feelings to get what they want.

Let the record show that the Boxed Set thread has now completed the 7th grade slumber party portion of its programming, and will now revert to discussion of sci fi TV shows. We thank you for your patience

See, that? Stung. Even though Nutty was squeeing, too, I believe, which made it more confusing.

I don't want to have to squee and then apologize for it.

Why go back to Boxed Set and risk talking too much about another show that the thread was established for and then be told that you're talking too much about it? I know that may not be people's intentions, but that's the message that I see being floated out there.

But if the "worst" that happens is getting your own thread to talk about this other show, I don't get why it's such a bad thing. It seems like reasonable evolution in discussion:

Someone loves a show and shares the love in thread ==> More people start loving the show and talking about it more ==> Show builds in excitement until it's consistently dominating the thread ==> Board votes to spin off discussion of show into its own thread.

Zen said all the talk had turned her *off* the show, too. (I think. Zen, was that you?)

Yeah, that was me. It's true, but I'm sort of regretting having said it. I don't blame anyone for it, and I certainly don't want to add to anyone's feelings of being unwelcome.

Frank wasn't the only one who was uncomfortable with the volume and...volume of squee and flail.

I'm not sure uncomfortable is the right word. Possibly at times, though mildly irritated is probably closer. At other times amusement. Still other times I'd enjoy reading some specific post or group of posts for their own sake (what with the spicy brains being on display and all). Same thing happens with some of the topics in natter. The difference was this was a single show, so I thought it might have reached the point of being in its own home, and I just happened to stumble across a discussion when I was in slightly irritated mode.

Honest to dog I was hoping either the idea of an SPN thread would be embraced enthusiastically or shot down with a "nope happy with things as they are" and things would have gone from there. If I'd even remotely thought there was going to be this kind of massive kerfuffle I never would have hit post.

Now I don't have any idea how to vote on this, because if there's no SPN thread, then...

See, that? Stung.

I was surprised for, like, three and a half seconds. Then I figured out it was a joke. (I hope?)

I just want to tell you how awesome Padalecki's hair is, people! Is that so wrong?!?

t /not really helping the SPN thread-drift issue

if the "worst" that happens is getting your own thread to talk about this other show

If you don't want the separate thread, then it's not a good result, is it? Just like ND can't talk BSG, say, because of where it is, I don't talk Heroes here anymore. One of "my" shows getting a thread is in no way a win for me.

However, I'm probably more loosely attached to needing to talk TV here than many, since I've been talking TV elsewhere this whole time.

"Signal to noise ratio"

That was unfortunate short-hand I picked up in discussing trying to find certain discussions in natter (and during the whole experimental thread process). I am very sorry for my poor choice of words there.

Someone loves a show and shares the love in thread ==> More people start loving the show and talking about it more ==> Show builds in excitement until it's consistently dominating the thread ==> Board votes to spin off discussion of show into its own thread.

This is pretty close to what I was trying to ask. If we, as a board, had reached that point with SPN.

That was unfortunate short-hand I picked up in discussing trying to find certain discussions in natter (and during the whole experimental thread process). I am very sorry for my poor choice of words there.

It's no big, Frank, really. It never bothered me before -- I've even used the expression! It was just a little different for me when I realized I was the one making the "noise". But I really know that you didn't mean it that way.

And like I said, I proposed the thread partly out of guilt, because I didn't want other BS posters to feel crowded and unable to speak.

But if the "worst" that happens is getting your own thread to talk about this other show, I don't get why it's such a bad thing.

Again, not an SPN watcher, so this is hypothetical for me, but to me it's not whether there's a dedicated thread or not. It's the comfort level of continuing to post in the bucket thread. Discussions go on forever and a day in order to decide what goes in what threads and now people that are following those guidelines are basically being told that they talk too much. The fact that it's then being qualified to say that they only talk too much about SPN, but that everyone still wants to hear what they have to say about X, Y and Z, doesn't make it much better. If I were in this situation I would feel like if I chose to continue to go to Boxed Set to discuss X, Y and Z, that I would have to do it in a certain way and be careful to watch my X:Y:Z posting ratio. And when there's that much work involved to try to figure out which show it's okay to post about when, where's the fun or point of it all?