Lilah ,'Just Rewards (2)'
We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!
Is there any non-going-back-in-time solution here?Honestly? Not really. We'll vote tomorrow, get a new thread and move on. Or we won't get a new thread and won't have this conversation again for six months. But I don't think that the latter is likely. Tardis aside, there is just the moving forward in time. And so we'll all move past it in a while, we always do.
Yes, there is a non-going back in time solution. We create the SPN thread, as Plei says, the ones who'll use it get to name it and create the slug. We shake hands, smile, and get on with things.
I don't blame Frank, I don't think anybody does. I don't blame Amy, who actually proposed the SPN thread. This was going to happen. But I echo Plei, about being reluctant to start any sort of in-depth discussion of any shows in Boxed Set, for fear of a repeat performance.
Denise has the right of it, for better or worse.
Why go back to Boxed Set and risk talking too much about another show that the thread was established for and then be told that you're talking too much about it? I know that may not be people's intentions, but that's the message that I see
And really, there's no cure for that, except to keep that sort of discussion to a place where everyone's agreed that it's fun and not impinging on anyone else's enjoyment. Which used to be Boxed Set, but now may well be LJ or IM or email. Yes, that's a note of regret.
But not resentment. Please take note of the difference.
But this is why I love the voting, and I know that not everyone does. I'm just saying -- don't vote a certain way because you think it's what "people" want. Vote a certain way because it's what you want.
At this point, I'm not even sure what I want. Other than that time machine thing.
Because at this point, irrational as it is to feel this way, I can't see myself going back and posting the same way as I used to, in the same place as I used to, even if through some off chance the thread doesn't get created.
And really, there's no cure for that, except to keep that sort of discussion to a place where everyone's agreed that it's fun and not impinging on anyone else's enjoyment.
Because at this point, irrational as it is to feel this way, I can't see myself going back and posting the same way as I used to, in the same place as I used to
I just don't get this. Is there more going on than Frank's one comment, that would stifle discussion?
But, in some ways, LJ is even more threaded than here.
How so? I mean, it doesn't feel like it the way I use it, but I use it in that specifically mediafannish way where I'm reading masses of journals and comms and it all blurs together in one happy clump of panfannish glory. Soon, your brain is mixing and matching Mounties and Rays with various and sundry superheroes and demon fighters! It's how crackaddled crossovers are born!
What sort of moratorium is there on requesting an SPN thread if this proposal gets voted down? Do we have to wait six months? Because I really don't feel comfortable discussing SPN in Boxed Set, or really, anywhere else on the board now, if it doesn't pass the vote.
How so?
I mean that you write a post and then people comment on the post immediately below that post. But I don't use LJ, so I'm probably ignorant of some co-mingling functionality.
I just don't get this. Is there more going on than Frank's one comment, that would stifle discussion?
Frank wasn't the only one who was uncomfortable with the volume and...volume of squee and flail.
Yeah, it's threaded comments, but the flist isn't threaded. So the effect of reading the flist is a mishmash of stuff all in a row.
I just don't get this. Is there more going on than Frank's one comment, that would stifle discussion?
Steph, I think this comment by Denise sums it how (irrationally or no) Bev and I are feeling right now.
Why go back to Boxed Set and risk talking too much about another show that the thread was established for and then be told that you're talking too much about it? I know that may not be people's intentions, but that's the message that I see being floated out there.
I just don't get this. Is there more going on than Frank's one comment, that would stifle discussion?There have been over 350 posts in here. It wasn't a one comment thing or the first time this came up inthread. I thought we'd found a working compromise but obviously we didn't.
I actually feel horrible for Frankenbuddha that this issue has become so emotional for everyone but it obviously is and something has to change.
I think the format here works better than lj for discussing SPN. But it's not just about the format. If we get the thread, we'll go there. If we don't, we'll still find places to talk.
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sums it how (irrationally or no) Bev and I are feeling right now.And me. I don't like feeling like this, but I do.