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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


P.M. Marc - Jul 17, 2007 9:44:53 am PDT #7290 of 10289
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

One of my biggest problems with this whole thing is that it's seemed to me to have come out of someone saying essentially "you all talk too much about a show I don't watch, so I don't think you should talk about it here anymore. Why don't you propose a new place for you to talk about it?" It's grown since then, with a couple of people saying they might join in if there was a dedicated space if they have time, but the fact that this is how it started still bugs.

Yeah. This. It lacked anything even resembling an organic feel.

And yes, because I am JUST THAT NEUROTIC, if I get seriously fannish about another Boxed Set kind of show, I probably won't post about it in Boxed Set as a result. Which I realize is my ish.

It's a no-win situation all around, I guess.


Liese S. - Jul 17, 2007 9:46:49 am PDT #7291 of 10289
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

but trying to address the larger issue every single time we vote on a new thread seems to just make people cranky

Yeah, I know. I just wish we could address the larger issue once and then be able to just create or not create new threads based on a philosophy henceforth. However, I know that we are the Buffistas and we know not the concept of once and for all. Maybe once and for a six month moratorium. Hee.


Cass - Jul 17, 2007 10:00:39 am PDT #7292 of 10289
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

One of my biggest problems with this whole thing is that it's seemed to me to have come out of someone saying essentially "you all talk too much about a show I don't watch, so I don't think you should talk about it here anymore. Why don't you propose a new place for you to talk about it?"
This bothers me. A lot.

It's just that it feels like it could sustain its own thread.
I don't know that SPN can sustain a healthy thread on its own.

But I suspect we're going to find out. Which just feels bizarre to me that the people who would be using a thread the most didn't really want it in the first place.

That we will use it and many people, including me, feel like they want out of Boxed Set now is not really a reflection on how we felt three or four days ago. To be clear, it's not how *I* felt then. And it's not what I have been reading others say.

It's a no-win situation all around, I guess.
It really is.


Lee - Jul 17, 2007 10:04:37 am PDT #7293 of 10289
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

And yes, because I am JUST THAT NEUROTIC, if I get seriously fannish about another Boxed Set kind of show, I probably won't post about it in Boxed Set as a result. Which I realize is my ish.

I wouldn't either, not when I would always have to wonder if I am going to get shut down/moved elsewhere if I am getting too fannish.


Jesse - Jul 17, 2007 10:06:03 am PDT #7294 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

So wait. Are you SPN types saying you wouldn't want to stay in Boxed Set now, anyway, no matter what?


Beverly - Jul 17, 2007 10:11:23 am PDT #7295 of 10289
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I wouldn't. More, I'd be reluctant to post in there, even if I was reading about a show I was interested in. Any discussion of a show in Boxed Set might find its way into a discussion of Supernatural in the SPN thread, as a compare and contrast sort of thing. But I would definitely not feel comfortable discussing any show in BS, other than to ask a straightforward question or something.


Lee - Jul 17, 2007 10:11:59 am PDT #7296 of 10289
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Are you SPN types saying you wouldn't want to stay in Boxed Set now, anyway, no matter what?

I can only speak for myself, but as things stand, I probably would never do more than skim and probably not even that. There's nothing else discussed there I watch on anything like a normal schedule (I've only seen half of last week's Eureka). That may change when the new shows come out, but I kind of doubt it, given the bad taste this whole thing has left in my mouth.


Jon B. - Jul 17, 2007 10:12:55 am PDT #7297 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Why don't you propose a new place for you to talk about it?"

OK, I don't that's being fair to Frank. Here's exactly what he said:

OK, serious question here. Do the SPNers have a reason why they do NOT want a seprate thread for their show? Because I'm just about ready to propose one, but I hate the idea of proposing a thread for a show I don't watch (other than random episodes), but that I want to have the commentary of moved elsewhere. I have appeciated the links to skip the "re-watch and posts", but now it seems like the show can't be avoided here (or in other threads) even with that system.

The episodes I've seen I've liked but not loved, and the recent squeeing and flailing has made the signal to noise ratio in this thread a bit much for me. If I'm alone in this, that's OK - just say so. But I don't understand why a separate thread (especially with a new season coming) would be a BAD thing.


smonster - Jul 17, 2007 10:13:28 am PDT #7298 of 10289
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Lurker McLurkypants here for the roll call:

Watch SPN, mostly lurk in BS, would probably post more in an all SPN thread but would still post in BS. As much as I post, which is little. Got used to talking about beautiful spooky cake on LJ (esp. since I got into it before it really started getting discussed here) but miss chatting with my lovely Buffistas.

Also want everyone happy, also know that's impossible. Wish that the idea of a separate thread hadn't been tainted (for some people) by the manner of proposal. Can see several different sides of this discussion.

Have misplaced pronouns. Am posting and running. Feel that post is fairly useless but am posting anyway.


Dana - Jul 17, 2007 10:13:54 am PDT #7299 of 10289
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Poor Frank is probably hiding in a bunker somewhere.

It frustrates me that we can't discuss something like this without people's feelings getting hurt. I understand the reactions, but it makes me sad, because no one wants that.