I don't like the idea that if you vote "No" on 1 you don't get a vote on the rest.

I see what you mean. Something like this:

B Proposal:

Part one:

Do you want a non-fiction thread, which would encompass the same shows as the Experimental Non-fiction thread, namely reality television (The Amazing Race, Survivor, Top Chef), documentaries (The History Channel, The Discovery Channel), and sundry (Mythbustes, Ghost Hunters)?

yes, no

Part two:

Do you want this thread to have whitefronted discussion?

yes, no

Part three:

If yes to to whitefront, how long?

24 hours, 72 hours

I don't like the idea that if you vote "No" on 1 you don't get a vote on the rest.

You would still get a vote on the rest whether you vote yes or no.

Can we have another whitefont option? 5am board time next day?

24 hours?

72 hours?

Someone above did mention having whitefont overnight, and that may not be a popular option, but it might be nice to have it in the mix.

12 hours?

I'd propose 24-hour whitefont for all threads. Not because it's needed in all threads, but "one rule for all" is the easiest to remember, and I can see the need for a 24-hour whitefontout for competition reality shows (even though I watch very little to none of the type).

(ETAdd, because even though the discussion started in Bureaucracy, it seems more appropriate here now:) I also checked Ticky Box because none of the others seemed to fit. My viewing habits also tend to be strange because most of the series that I watch are reruns of shows that were canceled many years ago.

Which raises a question: If we keep the network/cable drama split, which thread gets discussion of old network series that are now shown only on cable? (Example: Night Gallery, now showing on Chiller.)

Yes, SA. Something like that.

I don't like the idea that if you vote "No" on 1 you don't get a vote on the rest.

Yeah, what SA said. I meant result by answer, not dependent at all on what your personal answer is.

Also, just to be clear--we want this to be a non-fiction thread and not a reality show thread, yes? I think it's imporant to make the distinction here, because they very well could be two kinds of bucket threads, and I'm wondering whether people want two bucket threads--one for reality television, and one for other kinds of non-fiction such as Ghost Hunters, mythbusters, documentaries, news programs, NOVA, Mr Rogers, whatever.

Yeah, I did bring that up. I found that it could be difficult to get traction for discussion of the non-fiction stuff in the midst of the reality TV stuff. I'm pretty sure I was in the minority there though. I just really dig watching and discussing non-fic, but don't watch and am not really interested in almost all of the reality stuff, so when the topic switched to America's Next Top Aardvark I'd kinda check out.

If we keep the network/cable drama split, which thread gets discussion of old network series that are now shown only on cable? (Example: Night Gallery, now showing on Chiller.)

Another good question, though I wonder if it's better answered in B'crcy. For my part, I think if it's being shown on Cable when it's aired, it should be discussed in cable regardless of where it was first aired.

But it might be prudent to have another sort of thread--like a past shows thread, or something.

I'm not comfortable with the one size fits all, really. And I'm far less comfortable contemplating how we enact that. We don't even know what the new thread or threads will be. This particular one feels more likely to maintain the structure/content that developed in the experimentals, but I think the others are far less of a sure bet.

As a point of information, what's the whitefonting regime du jour in the other existing TV/media threads? Movies is - what, a week, two weeks following general release? Any more specific than that? Are we whitefonting anything anywhere else? (Aside from Natter, of course.)