Why vote on the whitefont for each thread? Is there a significant problem with having a single unified policy for the experimental threads?

Also, I agree that network and cable is an artificial distinction, and I don't think there's going to be a problem with the number of shows discussed. Some shows will rise to the top, some won't.

Also, I agree that network and cable is an artificial distinction

Contentwise, I agree, but I do think that network shows are more likely to be watched in realtime and cable shows more likely to be ahemed or watched on DVD, so the conversations may have very different rhythms.

Well, I could see where I would care about whitefont for, say, Numb3rs but not Meerkat Manor. Or alternately, for Project Runway but not How I Met Your Mother.

I do think that network shows are more likely to be watched in realtime and cable shows more likely to be ahemed or watched on DVD, so the conversations may have very different rhythms.

In that case, though, the problem isn't a genre bucket at all, but a live-vs.-boxed set (but not Boxed Set) problem.

I don't know that we know people's viewing patterns in all that much detail, actually -- it's easy to predict that the people watching the new season of Dr. Who are ahemming, since it isn't even showing here and they'd probably have said something if they had a private plane on call; and with Premium, it's been part of the thread assumptions since before there even was a thread that a lot of people don't have the channels but watch the shows on DVD. But those are the exceptions, and for the great majority of things I have very little sense of who's watching on TiVo vs catching up in the summer, and whether that breaks down by network vs. broadcast at all. Or whether people even notice or care what network a show is on.

ETA: the last bit is the basis of my objection to the network/cable split, and so to the proposal as it stands. I do agree with bon's point that there likely won't be that many shows talked about that it'll be an issue in the pilot.

I think voting on all the threads at once is a better idea - it's really voting for or against the experiment. As to whitefont, I have no idea if all at once or separately is better, but my inclination would be to leave that separate.

The needs are kind of different, for one thing. I suspect drama is the place where it's really going to matter to people. Comedy - I don't know that I see a need at all. Reality-wise, the only thing I think would need whitefont at all would be who's off, for shows that operate like that.

How we structure that into a vote, I again have no idea.

Jon and/or other stompies: I have to go out for a while -- possibly a couple of hours. I can't finalize the ballot now. Can you please give me time to do it when I get back? I'll post a second draft before I go, but I still have some changes to make.

I think it would give us better information -- asking people to vote on individual threads will tell us how many people are initially interested in each broad topic. I also think it will have a better chance of passing.

Thanks. Okay, I'm thinking about it. I'm hesitant, I guess, because to me, the whole point is to see what people will do, if they have new spaces to talk TV. I have never seen the point as establishing these threads for the long-term, or as piloting them for their own sake. That's why I didn't want to divide them any further (like into genre categories), and it's also why I don't want to dump any. They're pretty broad categories. Some may sink and some may swim in the experiment, and that's a good thing.

My personal opinion is that (for example) the non-fictional thread will end up showing us we don't have enough demand for either bucket or dedicated threads for shows of this type. But I am tired of us all working on hypothetical opinions. I'd love for us to just see what happens. I'm happy to see any of these threads fail or thrive. I just want to see what happens.

Would the categories as they now are keep any of you from voting for the proposal, even though you might not like all the categories?

Why vote on the whitefont for each thread? Is there a significant problem with having a single unified policy for the experimental threads?

Also, I agree that network and cable is an artificial distinction, and I don't think there's going to be a problem with the number of shows discussed. Some shows will rise to the top, some won't.

bon bon, I very much agree with the reasoning Liese and Jess gave to these questions. Also, where the white font is concerned, I just didn't really get much feedback on white font from people, past yay or nay. I don't know what would make the most sense, so I'm hoping this will tell us.

Oh, and count me as in favor of having a "don't care" option for the whitefont question, if not for all of them. (Because I don't care. Um, obviously.)

Yikes. Didn't notice the number on this one, the first time around. Anyhow, a refined version of the proposal is up, here: Topic!Cindy "Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!" Apr 14, 2007 7:28:41 am PDT

Yay for the no preference vote!