unless you're trying to be deliberately provocative

No, no, I didn't mean to provoke. This is just one of those issues that I seem to inadvertently wander into. Something sounds completely innocuous (such as a general purpose tv thread), but it turns out to be rife with conflict due to a long past history.

I think I've sufficiently voiced my opinion on the subject. Unless somebody can threadsuck B.org into my head, I'm clearly not qualified to make suggestions due to my lack of perspective.

The practical problem with a general TV thread is all the whitefonting, or spoilage of people who maybe saw tonight's Show A, but won't see last night's Show B until the weekend or whatever. Anyway, it's an old discussion.

And I really don't remember VM having that much discussion in Natter when it was on, although theoretically there are a dozen people who don't keep up in Natter, but would like to discuss it. Like Jim.

If we feel like taking an informal count, I am also one of those people.

Hey, Eddie. Of course you're entitled to an opinion, and we do want to hear it. And right now, there isn't any way you would have known you were wandering into territory with history. Which is why, I think, brenda mentioned it. Just so that you'd know. Not that there is a problem, just so that you wouldn't be unduly alarmed at the evidently raucous response you might get.

If we feel like taking an informal count, I am also one of those people.

Me too.

I feel bad about the resigned sense of impending doom I get from Kristen and Liese and ita, the feeling that me and other children-on-your-lawn have come in and are slowly taking your flowers away from you, stealing them one by one and replanting your garden with rhododendrons when you love daisies.

Heh. I think they're feeling resigned because it's already gone that way and this vote (or the next one, or the one after that) will probably ratify that change. I don't say that smugly - it just feels like things are already different (to me at least) and (I think) the difference is okay.

We didn't really know how the community would function after all the Buffyverse shows were off the air. Now that we've done it for a while we've got a bit more sense of it.

Now that we've done it for a while we've got a bit more sense of it.

I think that might be overstating it. I think that the senses are probably quite different from each other, and possibly also different from reality.

See, I come at this from the diametric opposite position to ita. I don't post here much any more because of the lack of a show to focus on (Lost doesn't cut it for me - no emotional pull). Natter's too full of people I don't know most of the time. I feel, here, like the resident of a village who moves away and comes back to find a giant city - a great city, full of nooks and crannies and little bars, but I don't really have a niche. There are a few old friends here that I suspect either do or should watch VM, and a VM thread would give us the chance to do that. Any idea of trying to preserve the spirit of TT Buffistas seems waaay too late - this board, to me, now feels as much a continuation of the Bronze as Agnes' Buffy thread. Not that that's a bad thing, of course.

There are a few old friends here that I suspect either do or should watch VM, and a VM thread would give us the chance to do that

Is this your motivation, or is it that VM is organic growth for the board?

I am skeptical of the "VM's a natural fit!" expansion theory. Which is one of the reasons I'm pro-foldering. Either there will be a lot of "natural fits" showing up, or "I like these people. I like this show. I want to talk about it here with them."

Any idea of trying to preserve the spirit of TT Buffistas seems waaay too late

I do hope this isn't the diametric position you're attributing to me -- I've gone on record, right here in this discussion, saying that that's not possible anymore.

I've been getting into VM during the reruns, but didn't know it was being discussed in Natter, as it's not a thread I subscribe to. (I tried, but can't keep up and there's only so many posts you want to skim over just to read the 30 or so that you might be interested in.) I haven't finished watching the repeats of this season, but I know already I'll be watching it instead of Lost's 2nd season and would like to have discussion to read.