There are a few old friends here that I suspect either do or should watch VM, and a VM thread would give us the chance to do that

Is this your motivation, or is it that VM is organic growth for the board?

I am skeptical of the "VM's a natural fit!" expansion theory. Which is one of the reasons I'm pro-foldering. Either there will be a lot of "natural fits" showing up, or "I like these people. I like this show. I want to talk about it here with them."

Any idea of trying to preserve the spirit of TT Buffistas seems waaay too late

I do hope this isn't the diametric position you're attributing to me -- I've gone on record, right here in this discussion, saying that that's not possible anymore.

I've been getting into VM during the reruns, but didn't know it was being discussed in Natter, as it's not a thread I subscribe to. (I tried, but can't keep up and there's only so many posts you want to skim over just to read the 30 or so that you might be interested in.) I haven't finished watching the repeats of this season, but I know already I'll be watching it instead of Lost's 2nd season and would like to have discussion to read.

Natter so overwhelmed me in volume now that i have a job, I unsubscribed and visit only on occasion.

It seems to me that a thread that can take some of the pressure off of Natter and Bitches would be a good thing.

t shrug.

It seems to me that a thread that can take some of the pressure off of Natter and Bitches would be a good thing.

Is there seriously any chance of a new thread having this effect, though? Historically, new threads have always meant more volume. If splitting off Movies and Music didn't slow down Natter, I really doubt Veronica can do it.

Jessica's right. Posting expands to fill the space allotted.

Here's the text I plan to use in the ballot. Comments?

Proposed: Should we add a Veronica Mars thread?

Jim writes: I propose that we have a VM thread. Purely selfishly, I can't keep up with Natter these days, and I want to discuss VM in the kind of depth you only get round here.

YES

NO

NO PREFERENCE

Jon, it looks simple and direct and good to me. Oh, and my profile address is good for counting.

If splitting off Movies and Music didn't slow down Natter, I really doubt Veronica can do it.

Actually, I would be very curious to see statistics about the flow of Natter before/after those threads were created. Oh, and we then can analyze it based on the number of active posters, or the average total posting flow, or - OK, I'll shut up now. No, first I'll tell myself that ita and the other techies who are doing such a wonderful job already have their hands full (both real hands and, um, screen ones) so they don't need any math requests, and that I have enough numbers to play with at work and I don't need to ask people for more. And now I'll shut up.

Both. I do think the board needs live show threads to sustain the feel, and I think VM is a really logical choice; it's the first show since Buffy - including Angel & Firefly - to feel even remotely like it. And no, my comment on preserving the original TT idea of the community was a generalism, not a comment to you.

Hear Ye Hear Ye

Voting is now open for the following proposal:

Proposed: Should we add a Veronica Mars thread?

Jim writes: I propose that we have a VM thread. Purely selfishly, I can't keep up with Natter these days, and I want to discuss VM in the kind of depth you only get round here.

Discussion for this proposal starts here.

Voting closes Thursday, August 25, at 6 AM (PST).

VOTE NOW

(questions should be posted in Bureaucracy)

And I am now closing this thread.

(Note: edited by DX to include correct date.)

From le nubian:

Here's my proposal that I think needs discussion:

I would like to become a bit more involved in some of the TV discussions here, but I can't get to Natter in time for anything I have to say to mean anything. I know there are/have been discussions about thread proliferation and when individual shows need threads. I am interested in further discussion that may help address various peoples' needs/wants.

Embedded in this are two options as I see them: 1) A Fall TV thread which would cover new series that debut September, October, or November; or 2) a New Series Thread that could encapsulate all the new series airing from September 1, 2005-August 31, 2006.

The second option could capture discussion of "Prison Break", "Reunion", mid-season replacement series, and summer series.

I know a thread for Option 1 may be short-lived, however, knowing y'all buffistas, we might be on thread #4 by the time Christmas comes.

So essentially the two options proposed differ in terms of what folks may most desire: long-running threads (option 2) or more concentrated discussion (option 1). Neither thread, in my view, would cover continuing series.