I feel bad about the resigned sense of impending doom I get from Kristen and Liese and ita, the feeling that me and other children-on-your-lawn have come in and are slowly taking your flowers away from you, stealing them one by one and replanting your garden with rhododendrons when you love daisies.

Heh. I think they're feeling resigned because it's already gone that way and this vote (or the next one, or the one after that) will probably ratify that change. I don't say that smugly - it just feels like things are already different (to me at least) and (I think) the difference is okay.

We didn't really know how the community would function after all the Buffyverse shows were off the air. Now that we've done it for a while we've got a bit more sense of it.

Now that we've done it for a while we've got a bit more sense of it.

I think that might be overstating it. I think that the senses are probably quite different from each other, and possibly also different from reality.

See, I come at this from the diametric opposite position to ita. I don't post here much any more because of the lack of a show to focus on (Lost doesn't cut it for me - no emotional pull). Natter's too full of people I don't know most of the time. I feel, here, like the resident of a village who moves away and comes back to find a giant city - a great city, full of nooks and crannies and little bars, but I don't really have a niche. There are a few old friends here that I suspect either do or should watch VM, and a VM thread would give us the chance to do that. Any idea of trying to preserve the spirit of TT Buffistas seems waaay too late - this board, to me, now feels as much a continuation of the Bronze as Agnes' Buffy thread. Not that that's a bad thing, of course.

There are a few old friends here that I suspect either do or should watch VM, and a VM thread would give us the chance to do that

Is this your motivation, or is it that VM is organic growth for the board?

I am skeptical of the "VM's a natural fit!" expansion theory. Which is one of the reasons I'm pro-foldering. Either there will be a lot of "natural fits" showing up, or "I like these people. I like this show. I want to talk about it here with them."

Any idea of trying to preserve the spirit of TT Buffistas seems waaay too late

I do hope this isn't the diametric position you're attributing to me -- I've gone on record, right here in this discussion, saying that that's not possible anymore.

I've been getting into VM during the reruns, but didn't know it was being discussed in Natter, as it's not a thread I subscribe to. (I tried, but can't keep up and there's only so many posts you want to skim over just to read the 30 or so that you might be interested in.) I haven't finished watching the repeats of this season, but I know already I'll be watching it instead of Lost's 2nd season and would like to have discussion to read.

Natter so overwhelmed me in volume now that i have a job, I unsubscribed and visit only on occasion.

It seems to me that a thread that can take some of the pressure off of Natter and Bitches would be a good thing.

t shrug.

It seems to me that a thread that can take some of the pressure off of Natter and Bitches would be a good thing.

Is there seriously any chance of a new thread having this effect, though? Historically, new threads have always meant more volume. If splitting off Movies and Music didn't slow down Natter, I really doubt Veronica can do it.

Jessica's right. Posting expands to fill the space allotted.

Here's the text I plan to use in the ballot. Comments?

Proposed: Should we add a Veronica Mars thread?

Jim writes: I propose that we have a VM thread. Purely selfishly, I can't keep up with Natter these days, and I want to discuss VM in the kind of depth you only get round here.

YES

NO

NO PREFERENCE

Jon, it looks simple and direct and good to me. Oh, and my profile address is good for counting.

If splitting off Movies and Music didn't slow down Natter, I really doubt Veronica can do it.

Actually, I would be very curious to see statistics about the flow of Natter before/after those threads were created. Oh, and we then can analyze it based on the number of active posters, or the average total posting flow, or - OK, I'll shut up now. No, first I'll tell myself that ita and the other techies who are doing such a wonderful job already have their hands full (both real hands and, um, screen ones) so they don't need any math requests, and that I have enough numbers to play with at work and I don't need to ask people for more. And now I'll shut up.