I don't know, Wolfram, but here's an interesting place to start reading.
Though it would be cute if the World Bank were stealing from us.
Sir? I'd like you to take the helm, please. I need this man to tear all my clothes off.
Zoe ,'Serenity'
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§ ita § - Apr 14, 2005 1:50:15 pm PDT #5508 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Katie M - Apr 14, 2005 1:51:53 pm PDT #5509 of 10289
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies
It first got used during/shortly after the Great Gang of Fourteen discussion, didn't it? (Or however many it was.)
bon bon - Apr 14, 2005 2:06:16 pm PDT #5510 of 10289
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
Maybe the thing with rafmun. We like to pretend we're egalitarian, but social networks just aren't. Social capital came up as a way to explain why it was ok to treat some people differently from others.
DavidS - Apr 14, 2005 2:10:22 pm PDT #5511 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
I'm pretty sure I brought the phrase "social capital" into Bureaucratic discussions, though, of course, the idea has been around for a long time. It always seems weird to me that people feel like it's prescriptive when it's merely descriptive. It's just a way to describe a particular social dynamic. As ita notes, the dynamic doesn't go away by ignoring the phrase. Some people treat it like it's a Cool Kids Uber Alles manifesto though.
Aims - Apr 14, 2005 2:14:31 pm PDT #5512 of 10289
Shit's all sorts of different now.
Sometimes, it might feel that way. Much like when people feel left out of the joke with the sockpuppets, I can see how the term itself can be unsettling. That maybe someones legitimate concerns are being blown off simply because they might not have the social capital someone else does.
I think that when, in a discussion like this one, anyone is afraid to post their opinion because of the social capital, it's detrimental to the discussion itself. I wish there was a way to say, "No social capital here for now.' But there isn't.
DavidS - Apr 14, 2005 2:38:09 pm PDT #5513 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
I wish there was a way to say, "No social capital here for now.' But there isn't.
Well, because I don't forget all the things I like about Aimee when I'm talking to her. It's really no different than saying "this person has/doesn't have my respect." Except it is different because it acknowledges that "respect" is not an either/or, but something that comes in degrees.
Kat - Apr 14, 2005 2:43:06 pm PDT #5514 of 10289
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
Wolfram, The earliest post I see that uses social capital is from me though I reference something that Allyson says. So if I were guessing which Buffista brought it up first, I'd say it was her.
But, as ita notes, not a concept unique to us.
DavidS - Apr 14, 2005 2:45:11 pm PDT #5515 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Allyson - Apr 14, 2005 2:45:22 pm PDT #5516 of 10289
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Sure, blame me.
Allyson - Apr 14, 2005 2:45:39 pm PDT #5517 of 10289
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
I AM NOT FRENCH