I'm pretty sure I brought the phrase "social capital" into Bureaucratic discussions, though, of course, the idea has been around for a long time. It always seems weird to me that people feel like it's prescriptive when it's merely descriptive. It's just a way to describe a particular social dynamic. As ita notes, the dynamic doesn't go away by ignoring the phrase. Some people treat it like it's a Cool Kids Uber Alles manifesto though.
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DavidS - Apr 14, 2005 2:10:22 pm PDT #5511 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Aims - Apr 14, 2005 2:14:31 pm PDT #5512 of 10289
Shit's all sorts of different now.
Sometimes, it might feel that way. Much like when people feel left out of the joke with the sockpuppets, I can see how the term itself can be unsettling. That maybe someones legitimate concerns are being blown off simply because they might not have the social capital someone else does.
I think that when, in a discussion like this one, anyone is afraid to post their opinion because of the social capital, it's detrimental to the discussion itself. I wish there was a way to say, "No social capital here for now.' But there isn't.
DavidS - Apr 14, 2005 2:38:09 pm PDT #5513 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
I wish there was a way to say, "No social capital here for now.' But there isn't.
Well, because I don't forget all the things I like about Aimee when I'm talking to her. It's really no different than saying "this person has/doesn't have my respect." Except it is different because it acknowledges that "respect" is not an either/or, but something that comes in degrees.
Kat - Apr 14, 2005 2:43:06 pm PDT #5514 of 10289
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
Wolfram, The earliest post I see that uses social capital is from me though I reference something that Allyson says. So if I were guessing which Buffista brought it up first, I'd say it was her.
But, as ita notes, not a concept unique to us.
DavidS - Apr 14, 2005 2:45:11 pm PDT #5515 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Allyson - Apr 14, 2005 2:45:22 pm PDT #5516 of 10289
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Sure, blame me.
Allyson - Apr 14, 2005 2:45:39 pm PDT #5517 of 10289
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
I AM NOT FRENCH
Aims - Apr 14, 2005 2:52:45 pm PDT #5518 of 10289
Shit's all sorts of different now.
Well, because I don't forget all the things I like about Aimee when I'm talking to her. It's really no different than saying "this person has/doesn't have my respect." Except it is different because it acknowledges that "respect" is not an either/or, but something that comes in degrees.
Yeah, I know. I just....I don't know. I *know* social capital is real and valuable, especially in a community such as this. But sometimes, it feels...it sometimes feels like "person X has no social capital with me so I can say/post whatever I want as long as it's not too troll-y." I don't have specific incidents of this in mind and I don't know that it's ever happened to me and I know this isn't the true topic at hand (anymore qualifiers? No? Ok, I can close parantheses), but sometimes, it feels that way.
Shrug.
DavidS - Apr 14, 2005 2:53:00 pm PDT #5519 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
I AM NOT FRENCH
But it is your fault, right?
Aims - Apr 14, 2005 2:53:34 pm PDT #5520 of 10289
Shit's all sorts of different now.
I am going to call them Allyson Fries and Allyson Toast.